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BNP - grrrrr - REALLY hope none of you are voting for them........

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Gwenick · 23/04/2005 21:26

here

Read the first part of the manifesto and had to stop was just fuming.........

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sallystrawberry · 23/04/2005 22:41

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moondog · 23/04/2005 22:43

Yes I read that JanH when it came out.
I was surprised that he had let her talk to the journalist because Griffin is not thick.

I still can't help thinking that many (most?)people in the UK feel we are at saturation point with regards to immigration, regardless of the reality.

I do know that when I visit my fil in his West Wales nursing home, the staff are from places such as India, Sri Lanka,Poland and Uzbekhistan (really!) and that the Spa in Pwllheli (north Wales seaside resort near me) employs Eastern Europeans as according to the manager 'we can't get locals to do these jobs.'

Who is this good for?
Who is being taken for a ride?

Katiemac,why did your dh consider voting for the BNP?

mummytosteven · 23/04/2005 22:49

I just worry that various unpopular things Labour have done - eg. Iraq war, combined with lack of credibility of Conservatives combined with constant political/media spin on country being allegedly overrun by asylum seekers etc will lead to more protest votes going to extremists like the BNP

KatieMac · 24/04/2005 20:30

Moondag 'cos on local issues - it made sense...he just didn't look any further.....a lot of people vote on the headlines..not the small print

Things like widening a road, creating a newplay area for children, getting wheelie bins....not much compared to repatriating him

piffle · 04/05/2005 12:08

Sorry to resurrect this but I missed it at the weekend
grrr at real life interfering again...
The thing that really pisses me off is that the majority of Asians in this country are 1st, 2nd, 3rd generation British people.
In other words more British than me, my husband and my kids and all my living family. But we're irish and kiwi so that's different is it?
My FIL recalls only too well the climate of hostility when he arrived early 60's as an irish lad off the boat, he had to sleep rough for weeks as No Irish signs were up on all the boarding houses.
It is blatant racism against people of colour or alternative religion esp Muslims
I suspect that considering the number of British Muslims and their rapidly growing faith, that we in the UK had better learn to live alongside it PDQ or we'll end up like any other number of countries currently occupied in civil disobedience in the name of oneness.
Sorry for bringing this up again but Keeeeriky the BNP really get up my nose.

Tinker · 04/05/2005 12:10

Oh, you mean, you weren't touched by Nick Griffin's beautifully moving song (which he wrote and sang himself, you know) on the BNP party political broadcast

Don't worry, Tories have made racism respectable again.

piffle · 04/05/2005 12:12

I was doorstepped by a Tory the other day, before he even got a word out I said, save your breath as I'm not thinking what you're thinking and neither is 70% of the UK.
he bid a hasty retreat...

Gwenick · 04/05/2005 12:15

LOL piffle

I had to laugh last night - we'd just watched that AWFUL Labour party broadcast with Alan Sugar and there was a knock at the door. I went to answer is saying "It's probably someone trying to get us to vote for them" - to which DH replied "tell them to go away"

Thing is he said that just as I was opening the door to see one of my really good friends standing there ........I just burst into laughter and she was completely confused.........

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Tinker · 04/05/2005 12:15

Thye were canvassing on local high street. Childishly made a point of buying Guardian and Big Issue to display openly

Marina · 04/05/2005 12:16

Quite Tinker.
Ds asked me this morning as we were falling out of the door to school why I can't stand Michael Howard, and ten minutes further up the road I finally stopped.
Round where we are there is a historic interest in the policies of the BNP (certain percentage of white lower-middle class electorate clearly feel besieged by surrounding more ethnically diverse areas) so the BNP put more effort into their election campaign locally than the Lib Dems did . I feel very insulted by this on both fronts tbh.

Marina · 04/05/2005 12:18

Our Tory candidate looks like the missing link. His forehead is so low and sloping there is virtually nothing there above his eyebrows. Easy to see where nature economised there!
I took huge pleasure in sidestepping him disdainfully at the station with a loud, "no thank you"

tweetyfish · 04/05/2005 12:21

They also make my blood boil...
I am Belgian but have no foreign accent. I have challenged people with BNP's views before,askd them "what about me then?" and their answer is "but you're different". Why, ffs????? Because i look british? I usually get so mad (i'm getting wound up just thinking about it!) that I just cannot get a decent argument accross as to just how abismal that kind of thinking is!

piffle · 04/05/2005 12:29

Well my Irish FIL lives in Rotherham and has morphed into that middle class wealthy retired person who is starting to become a racist (anti Asian) despite remembering what he went through when coming here.
I know there are social problems in some areas, but FGS we are human beings, the cleverest life form on the planet, surely there is mutually acceptable compromise to allows us all to live equally here!
How about this BNP... if you don't like it here
LEAVE!!!

sallystrawberry · 04/05/2005 12:33

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NotQuiteCockney · 04/05/2005 12:35

Hmm, would they fund me moving back to Canada? Half my grandparents were born here, and the other was the child of two Brits. So am I an immigrant? Or am I just sensibly returning back to the country I belong in?

(I know, I know, "immigrants" is a code word, like "urban".)

fuzzywuzzy · 04/05/2005 12:36

I've recived many leaflets through my letterbox, canvassing the BNP. Thing is I have a sick feeling they may get a few votes round here
The leaflets are amazingly simplistic, they are little picture stories, almost like very badly drawn (and written) comic books. The leaflet I received, said it would send all overseas dr's and nurses home, as their qualifications were suspect and they weren't as good as the locally educated doctors and nurses.....!!!!! Quite bizarre, as I know that doctors from overseas have to sit pretty rigorous exams before they are allowed to begin practicing here.

piffle · 04/05/2005 12:38

If the Tories made racism respectable...
Who then is going to make the Tories respectable?
So who will the new Tory leader be
Portillo? Widdecombe?
Tee hee

Tinker · 04/05/2005 12:39

Indian doctors were trained by teh British - remember that on the recent (very good) series about Asians.

Have horrible feeling my next door neighbour out a BNP leaflet through our door Know the candidate lives round the corner.

Tinker · 04/05/2005 12:41

They have so many lovelies to choose from don't they? Their biggest mistake (can't believe I'm helping them) was not have Ken Clarke - he's pro Europe and no so off-putting to non-Tories that could have swung a few swingers, as it were

Marina · 04/05/2005 12:46

Sigh, I quite like Ken too, Tinker. As Tories go, you understand. He and Gillian look so wrinkled and dishevelled and cheerful compared to most other politicians.

piffle · 04/05/2005 12:50

Yes twice they should have had Ken Clarke and twice they muffed it up.
Would not have changed my voting stance though as I'll NEVER vote Tory - but it woudl make them a more effective opposition and keep TB more honest IYKWIM
And it would distance the Tories from the reactionary factiosn too...
Ahh sod it I do not really care about them after all...

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