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objections to affordable homes by snobby villagers - This makes me so angry!

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meemar · 11/03/2009 12:33

Living in devon myself, this makes me so annoyed.

The worst of it is that most of them are 2nd home owners and don't even live there. And the proposal is only for six houses ffs.

I can't bear NIMBY attitudes.

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bratnav · 11/03/2009 12:36

I could understand the objections if it were dozens of houses (of any sort) but 6?

piratecat · 11/03/2009 12:37

oh my god, i was just thinking oh yes that pisses me of too!!! then i saw it was you!!!

OrmIrian · 11/03/2009 12:38

I agree with you. It's infuriating. Now if they were planning to build 2000 new homes I could understand it but 6?

DB and I inherited a tiny plot of land in Herefordshire. We've been trying to get planning permission for a group of affordable houses for about 10 yrs. We've even got housing associations on board to try and get it through. But no.... it's too near some nice big expensive houses and it might spoil their view.

meemar · 11/03/2009 12:42

LOL Pirate

This is what I hate by Steve Rider:-

"Sometimes these affordable housing projects are wrong - they're in the wrong place and I'm afraid this is one of them,"

i.e don't let anyone who isn't rich live in a nice village Tosser.

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FAQinglovely · 11/03/2009 12:42

grr - I never did like that Steve Rider - but could never put my finger on why......

FAQinglovely · 11/03/2009 12:46

OrmIrian - it's stupid isn't it.

Especially as there's no guarantees to those residents in the big expensive houses that they're not already living among HB claimants. Of course chances are in a "posh" area the resident will have to be topping up the rent on their own........but it's still the same "sort" of person that could be living next ot them as would live in the affordable housing.

piratecat · 11/03/2009 12:48

and it pisses me off that you get local people against affordable homes too, not just 2nd home owners.

Like they don't understand that populations grow? Sorry to say but it's the retired oldies that are the worst, who do not think HOW their goods and services get to them if it weren't for people staying local and dong those jobs.

Devon = living in a bubble at times.

Peachy · 11/03/2009 12:51

I hate this attitude also

We ahd an affordable home for a hile,the reason asnt becuase we were the type these poelpefear but I was working for a charity and Dh ill- is that so bad?We could probablt afford to be on the ladder now with similar housing,but we live in expensiveish areas (cheapfor the UK but espensive for SE wales here, before we lived in somerset).

These poeple that are not wanted are usually essentialworkers,people with disabilities. Is that so awful?

Mind,nothing winds me up like a NIMBY

MollieO · 11/03/2009 12:52

Steve Rider lives near me. Maybe I should park a caravan in his front garden for some of our local workforce.

Peachy · 11/03/2009 12:53

(DH was involved witha commiunity group years ago that lost their base when a 2nd home owner decided to dpeand masses amounts of cash to get them out- they went peacefully in the end as having someone wave a gun at ou will do that, make you want to go)

FFS

Fimbo · 11/03/2009 12:55

Steve Rider is up himself but...

I live on an estate where there is a 70/30 split of bought houses/affordable housing. Yes I knew what I was getting into when we bought the house, but I have to say we have had no end of problems with kids from the affordable houses. They have trashed parts of the green areas that were just being established, they have gone into people's gardens and trashed them. They have trampled all over the flowers in my front garden. They play chick a melly at all hours of the day and night (have switched my bell off now). A couple of them have been expelled from school and hang around the estate all day long now. They intimidate other children. My dd was chased by a rottie down our own street, the dog belongs to someone in the social housing. Another couple fell out over Christmas and the police were called as she was out in the street crying and threatening suicide. Her husband then set about the police.

We bought the house thinking it would be ok but its not and we have no chance of selling now due to the credit crunch.

FAQinglovely · 11/03/2009 12:57

Fimbo - you could easily have the same problems if it 100% bought but with 30% rented out privately.....

LurkerOfTheUniverse · 11/03/2009 12:58

I guessed this would be in Devon before I opened the thread

typical attitude here, I find

Fimbo · 11/03/2009 13:01

A lot of the bought ones are rented out FAQ, my neighbours are but they are not running about causing havoc.

fryalot · 11/03/2009 13:06

all those people who have second homes in the village presumably want some of the following:

a shop
a pub
a postman
a milkman
the roads swept
the bins emptied
a caretaker for when they're not there
a cleaner
someone to do their washing/ironing
a petrol station to fill up their 4 x 4s
a local paper
delivery of a local paper
an organic farm shop

who exactly do they think is going to do these jobs when the only people who would consider doing them live 30 miles away as there is no affordable housing anywhere near?

They're shortsighted twats.

FAQinglovely · 11/03/2009 13:08

I guess you must on a very small estate to know that all those children are the ones that live in the affordable homes

ABetaDad · 11/03/2009 13:08

I have long tought that high house prices and the national obsession with property in this country has damaged our society. It intrudes, defines and polarises almost every debate about our future.

It annoys me and the particular example here is particularly annoying!

Fimbo · 11/03/2009 13:10

It is and I do

FAQinglovely · 11/03/2009 13:15

mind you on the estate I used to live on when we first moved to this town it was majority social/rented houses (although we had bought).

By far the worst brats on the street lived across from us - in another bought (not "affordable") house

nickytwotimes · 11/03/2009 13:19

I am about this too.
6 houses ffs!

Like FAQ once did, I live in a 'mixed' area and the brats here happen to live in two of the bought houses.

jumpingbeans · 11/03/2009 13:20

this smacks of," yes, the poor should be housed,but not near my house, near yours will do just fine"

MilaMae · 11/03/2009 13:26

Im in Devon too and find this bloody annoying I could rant for pages but won't.

It's especially galling as the 2nd home bracket is the bracket most families are in-under £250 000. The 2nd home owners cream off all this property,destroy the infrastructure then moan when affordable houses are built.

If you don't actually live in a place you don't have any right to have a say in anything as far as I'm concerned.

Callisto · 11/03/2009 13:31

From a different point of view, East Pootlebury, or whatever it's called, is in the middle of nowhere - I bet the bus routes are crap or non-existent and there won't be anywhere to shop/go to dr/dentist/post office locally. Would anyone who can't necessarily afford a car actually want to like somewhere like this? I certainly wouldn't.

I agree that 2nd home owners are a menace - they've killed lots of villages in the Cotswolds and I think that they should pay at least double council tax (though not many on MN agreed with that the last time I mentioned it), but there is no point building houses if no-one wants to live in them.

Callisto · 11/03/2009 13:32

Also, the proposed houses might be hideous and/or totally out of keeping with the area.

OrmIrian · 11/03/2009 13:37

You know what really winds me up is that those who don't want housing in 'unsuitable' areas are (presumably) much happier having it in other areas instead. Such as the area of already high density, mostly Victorian terraced, housing where we live. Where every tiny space is being filled with even more high density cheap housing such as bedsits and flats. There is insufficient parking, not enough school places, dentists and crowded GP practices. All round the town there are new developments with barely sufficient infrastructure. But you see that's OK because it's 'suitable' ie cheap for developers and it keeps the riff-raff out of the hair of the rurally comfortable. But given the choice I'd rather be here than in some social desert even though I'm a country girl at heart.

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