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Social services remove young children from grandparents and arrange adoption by gay couple

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EldonAve · 28/01/2009 07:56

Social services remove young children from grandparents and arrange adoption by gay couple

"social workers stepped in after allegedly deciding that the couple, who are aged 59 and 46, were "too old" to look after the children."

Is 46 really too old?

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PeachyBAHonsPRSCertOnRequest · 29/01/2009 18:47

Yes- it was the sorrento one I menat (Phew! thought I was going amd and remembering summat didnt exist!)

Yorkiegirl · 29/01/2009 18:49

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solo · 29/01/2009 19:03

So, if I die, being a single mum and with two Dc's with different fathers. If I write a will to say that I want my best friend to have them and PR of them, I wonder how that will stand ~ will it stand? I mean, I don't want my two separated and Ds doesn't want to go with Dd's father even if he wanted to take him...Ds doesn't have contact with his father and doesn't want it either. There's loads to consider...

Yorkiegirl · 29/01/2009 19:04

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daftpunk · 29/01/2009 19:07

thank you yorkiegirl.

i don't think i've ever spoken to you before..

i'm so very sorry about your dh.

Yorkiegirl · 29/01/2009 19:09

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ElfOnTheTopShelf · 29/01/2009 19:17

Does anybody know what would happen if BOTH parents died and neither had a will? I'm thinking about children rather than money / homes etc.

eNABlemetobebetter · 29/01/2009 19:20

my page 32 has an advert for Benecol!

edam · 29/01/2009 19:31

Whole thing sounds terribly sad, whatever the rights and wrongs of it.

For a system which is supposed to have the best interests of the child at heart, there are some very strange practices going on. It sounds very plausible that the grandparents were told 'butt out or you'll have no access' - the sort of thing SWs do under the guise of 'we have to make sure the adoption doesn't break down'.

But how on earth can it be in the best interests of the child to have ties to their biological relatives severed? If these are people who have cared for them and that they know and trust, being separated from them and prevented from having contact will be very hurtful for the children. Sometimes it will be necessary where the bio relative is abusive but as a general rule, surely adoption shouldn't involve breaking all contact with your previous life?

Yorkiegirl · 29/01/2009 19:33

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eNABlemetobebetter · 29/01/2009 20:04

Mine says Feb on the front and I got it yesterday.

PeachyBAHonsPRSCertOnRequest · 29/01/2009 21:15

i'll get that yg

I'll always remember you losing Nigel, and we put in place a lot of things to make the boys more secure after:, there's no chance the boys would be adoptd together with the autism, and the idea of separation really does make me feel ill.

HUgs and nice to see you.

Yorkiegirl · 30/01/2009 07:48

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daftpunk · 30/01/2009 08:06

elfonthetopshelf;

hi, don't know if you're still around but, re; your question about both parents dying...i googled some info last night and in that situation, the children woould be placed with a family member (ie;grandparent) providing they were willing/and capable.

solo · 30/01/2009 10:39

Thanks YG. I'll have to look into that. Unfortunayely, I can't afford to see a solicitor. Perhaps I'll visit the CAB.

StewieGriffinsMom · 30/01/2009 12:07

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PeachyBAHonsPRSCertOnRequest · 30/01/2009 12:52

solo if you're in the UK they often run will events where they write them cheaply?

sorrento · 30/01/2009 13:36

I said the poor family would have invited SS in to help and this is the "help" they've received, it's a disgrace, if the adoption is stopped then it's a victory for common sense the children should be with their families.
And those gay men can help where help is genuinely required, enough children have nobody in the world.
What a mess and upsetting situation for all involved.

madlentileater · 30/01/2009 13:54

but this help is genuinely required, the grandparents can't provide a home, that's why the social workers arranged for adoption- the grandparents themselves aknowledged this- tis pure homophobia, and very worrying if adoption is stopped because of gossip.
Common sense = jumping to conclusions without knowing all the facts, which none of us do, because rightly, courts and social servives TRY to preserve children's privacy.

CoteDAzur · 30/01/2009 18:19

madlentileater - What makes you think grandparents have "acknowledged" that they "can't provide a home" for these children?

My understanding is that they fought SS in court for years, and only gave up reluctantly in the end because they couldn't afford mounting legal fees.

laumiere · 30/01/2009 19:14

The grandparents had already put the kids into care before the court case, so it would certainly suggest that they were aware they could not care for the children.

StewieGriffinsMom · 30/01/2009 19:26

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tatt · 30/01/2009 19:35

Where both parents die and neither has left a will the courts will be involved and they will have reports from social services. And if the people you want as guardians haven't done everything that social services ask of them then they may find those reports are not favourable.

The children may still go where you want them to go - courts are not totally stupid - but appointing guardians means more chance of your children staying out of care.

Money is the least of the worries if you have children!

MilaMae · 30/01/2009 19:50

Yorkiegirl are you sure about the £400 a month,what is that exactly?

EllieG · 30/01/2009 19:53

They would have been assessed and there will be some other reason why the kids can't go there, it's just ss can't say why.

Sorry if repeating, just read the op.

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