Russell Brand, Jonathan Woss and Andrew Sachs

[JoolsToo]

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/3263328/Russell-Brand-and-Jonathan-Ross-joke-radio -phone-calls-just-werent-funny.html

Have we not had a discussion about this? I'm surprised.

Seedy, sordid, unfunny little men pad obscene amounts of money to be obscene.

What's your view?

She could have gone to the press and sold her story at any time during the last 2yrs. Clearly she chose to keep her sex life to herself. He has publicly broadcast the whos and hows. He took that step. Why the hell shouldn't she now tell her side of the story?

I think RB has sex with so many women that the market for kiss and tell stories with him is pretty flooded - you'd need something to stand out and make it marketable.

Surely he exploited her first, SM. Maybe not for money or fame but for a cheap laugh at least.

RB has had sex with about 5000 women

Sadly they can't all make money from it

As I said, he exploited her so she has every right to do the same.

oh god - i bet he's full of disease! yuck

clearly she saw a financial marketing opportunity to maximise the assignation.on a normal day this wouldn't have got any particular interest.why would it.RB is a well known poon hound.just so happens this time other factors, and story grew legs and started running

The whole thing is pathetic. People who DON'T and DIDN'T listen to the show are complaining ( or strictly speaking supporting the Daily Mail agenda). It is a bit like turning on porn and complaining about the sexual content. You KNOW what you are getting with the Russell Brand radio show. And only 2 people complained about the actual show.

No-one was arsed until the glorious Daily Mail took the story up. They have won and so congratulations to them. The BBC have been slack arses and should have supported them more. They employed RB knowing he was a bit erm, controvershhell.

I think you are right fruitstick. I do see things in a romantic way. I do symapthise with 'Tess'.

But who knows whether Rebecca Loos really had feelings for David Beckham (as she claimed at the time, well she would, wouldn't she?) and was really hurt when it all became exposed and he dropped her like a lead balloon. Or whether it was all a calculated scam on her behalf to sleep with someone famous in order to make money. Or whether it was somewhere inbetween.

I suppose my point is with a lack of moral compass in the nation's culture and media, it is likely that young women will be living in a culture (they already are, we are) where it is either exploit or be exploited. You're damned if you do and if you don't. I just think it is even more confusing and there is even more social pressure on young people than there ever used to be.

But maybe I am looking at the past through rose-tinted glasses. It has always been difficult, growing up.

Just a huge cultural change in the last half century. I like some of RB's stuff (can't stand JR - insincere) but when I was a teenager, 'The Young Ones' was 'edgy'. Slapstick violent, yes, but not sexist. This generation has 'Little Britain' and RB. The 'Bitty' mother and 'Bubbles'.

I suppose there is inherent misogyny in comedy because most of it is written by men and humour is formed out of fear and men are afraid of women.

Anyway, I am turning into my Aunty, who talks loudly about her underwear in restaurants (a candidate for early senile dimentia if ever there was one).

i agree with givepeasachance

but she can't exploit it whilst at the same time demanding that Brand lose his job for invading her privacy and causing damage to her relationship with her grandfather.

It's just not relevant what she did, and what she does now! Whether she shagged the pair of them on an open topped double decker bus down Oxford Street on a saturday morning, and if she becomes hugely famous now and makes a mint, THAT'S NOT THE POINT!

They behaved in a cruel, malicious, and misogynistic way, it was broadcast by the BBC - and many many people who are sick to the teeth of nastiness and humiliation passed off as entertainment have taken the chance to make their feelings known. I agree the one incident on it's own doesn't merit such a furore, but I think it's something of a final straw.

Yeah, absolutely it have been blown out of all proportion especially by the DM.

That still doesn't change the fact that she is just doing exactly what he did.

oh blimey - please can i opt out of paying for the middle class cosiness of the bbc?

i resent paying for toff's entertainment

her fey indignation,sqwaking about her privacy as she prepares News of world spread for money.oh come on she is tarnished by financial gain and notoriety

can't they buy their own tv channel? they manage with education and the nhs

alan yentob could present everything

Agree with Turquoise.

He talked about shagging her on a radio broadcast.

If some numpty had told the world and my grandfather he's had me over the back of the sofa, I'd want to to push it as far as I could too.

"she has waded into this debacle with her publicist max cliffforrd"

how strange that someone whose sex life has been bruited about the airwaves, should be considered "wading in" when she takes some control of the situation instead of standing by passively. Oh and only Andrew Sachs feelings matter, hers don't. Wierd.

As for it being just a Daily Mail agenda - by the law of averages, there will be occasions when even the most rabidly anti DM person will agree with them. I'm not going to disagree with the DM just because it's the DM. Mostly I disagree with it because it is wrong.

is that a pun!push it as far as you can.hmm thinkey all the over sofa pummelling caused this

Yes, Myredcardigan, but would you have gone to The Sun/Max Clifford to "set the story straight", cleavage and all.

I agree, Bella

so she wouldn't be tarnished if she wasn't selling her story then?

and notoriety - who made her notorious? I'd never heard of her before this.

I actually think it's incredibly sad that there are women on here whose strongest viewpoint about the whole sorry affair is indignation that the woman unwittingly and unwillingly involved might gain something from it.