Russell Brand, Jonathan Woss and Andrew Sachs

[JoolsToo]

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/3263328/Russell-Brand-and-Jonathan-Ross-joke-radio -phone-calls-just-werent-funny.html

Have we not had a discussion about this? I'm surprised.

Seedy, sordid, unfunny little men pad obscene amounts of money to be obscene.

What's your view?

Oh yes, terribly angry and upset that her public profile and earning potential has leapt beyond that of the CEO of a shortly to be nationalised bank. Devastated.

Oh christ is Max Clifford involved now is he?? Thats all we friggin need! Any sympathy she may have got from me has evaporated now that HE is involved with her. My husband joked about that very thing yesterday too!

I don't really know what's going on.
Is that wrong?

Justify smustify. Let s/he who sups with the devil use a very very very long spoon. Unless, of course, it's all agreed in the first place and then everybody gets the no press is bad press prize.

I hope she does do well out it.
I think this has all been a good thing really it encourages a reappraisal of casual sexism and cruelty. I have stopped watching JR's interviews, even if I am interested in the guest because I was so tired of his childish, sexist sleaze. Like telling Chris Martin to call Gwyneth Paltrow so he (JR) could have sex with her because she (GP) was 'gagging for it'. Tiresome old man.

lol double derbrain
she's been humiliated by the fact that it is considered, by JR, JB, and the rest of society, humiliating to allowed oneself to have been fucked [note passive voice].

I don't know why that is. But it is.

(well actually I do but I won't bore you with it now)

to be dragged, unwilling, into the public eye, is painful, I imagine. Infinitely more so, for one's private sexual life. Trebly infinitely more so, if the world is criticizing you for 'giving it away'. Quadruply so, if the world is saying that you deserve any and all that JS/JB can throw at you, because you did so.

the more I think about it, the more this feels like a figurative rape.

I think its irrelevant whether somebody heard the radio show. The facts are that JR and RB made a prank call. They did not get proper permission to play the prank call on the radio and the victim did not find the prank call funny. It should not have been played.

As has been mentioned before, Andrew Sachs is not running for political office and (unusually these days) is famous for his acting, not his private life. He was not fair game. I don't think the Prime Minister needed to comment, but the BBC should not be broadcasting this kind of material.

Whether JR and RB apologise or not, it seems that many Radio 1 listeners thought they were very funny, so its likely that some of us won't have to wait too long for a call like this to come to a phone near us. Hilarious.

No, it isn't (considered thus by society)and certainly not by the satanic sluts. it's called furthering one's career.

i am fucking matt damon

i am fucking ben affleck

Hillarious!

It was on radio 2

"Oh yes, terribly angry and upset that her public profile and earning potential has leapt beyond that of the CEO of a shortly to be nationalised bank. Devastated."

Perhaps this might be your own response, but you should be wary of imputing it to others.

If you got up every morning and donned your corset, black eyeliner and blood drinking lip liner, how seriously would you want to be taken? Or would you just want the cash?

what is your point, hullygully? that it's a big conspiracy designed to get her career going? that sachs is in on it? what?

cos if not, so what if she turns their behaviour into something useful for her? why shouldn't she?

I have no problem with people being offensive really, or obscene (although am a bit of a prude and might well choose not to watch/listen )

But this just seemed unkind. And unnecessary.

I'm not sure it warrants all the sound and fury it has generated, but it was mean-spirited and makes me curl my lip slightly at two people I previously had no strong feelings about.

she's only 23, ffs, hullygully.

Isn't she?

Sorry - haven't had time to read the whole thread but tbh I think the blame lies with the producers.

What we have here is two infantile blokes larking about in a studio. Yes - what they said/did was stupid and offensive but they were just filling 'recording time' - albeit in a really infantile way. The Andrew Sachs stuff was probably just 8 minutes of stuff that they recorded amongst another 50 minutes of nonsense. It wasn't up to them what was actually given the 'go' to be broadcast.

This is not excusing them - it was all in poor taste - but ultimately it probably wasn't any less tasteless than a lot of stuff that is recorded in studios every day (I speak as one who knows!). The difference is that it never should have been broadcast, and the producers should immediately have contacted Andrew Sachs and apologised for the 'prank' thereby short cutting any further action on his part.

Only 23. And yet we send children to prison. Imagine.

How on earth can it be irrelevant that a lot of people are commenting on something they haven't even listened to? If you were commenting on a tv show I would have expected you to watch the fucking thing first!

I don't think her job/subsequent behaviour has anything to do with anything.

This situation has been forced upon her.

Or are you saying that only certain women deserve to have their private lives kept private, and others give up all rights to.. well, to anything, because they don't conform to our idea of a Good Woman.

Anyone who is can't believe that we are yet again rehearsing Basic Fucking Human Rights/ Feminism Module (GSCE and Under) - I apologize.

Telling my grandfather in front of an audience of millions that I'd had sex with Russell Brand is off the scale humiliation-wise. Like the very worst kind of embarrassment dream.

But also, I feel humiliated as a radio listener that this crap can be dished out to me as entertainment. Worse even than the casual misogyny is the idea that the BBC expects me to lap up this kind of giggling dysentery.

Anyone who (strike "is") can't believe.. etc

my grandfather had sex with RB and was v proud of it. IT IS ALL TOO SILLY. They all want the publicity and here they are getting it. I'm off to bed, sadly not with RB, my grandfather or the lovely satanic sluts. Enjoy your outrage - I'm sure they are.