Russell Brand, Jonathan Woss and Andrew Sachs

[JoolsToo]

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/3263328/Russell-Brand-and-Jonathan-Ross-joke-radio -phone-calls-just-werent-funny.html

Have we not had a discussion about this? I'm surprised.

Seedy, sordid, unfunny little men pad obscene amounts of money to be obscene.

What's your view?

Sayonara fonejacker and Dom Joly eh Edam
Am sitting here crying at that thought, not

Yeah, they were fun back in the innocent days of someone pretending to be Tom Baker/Doctor Who and ringing a DIY superstore to ask for supplies to fix the Tardis, but those days have gone. Or perhaps even then they weren't so innocent.

I've always had a soft spot for JR too sunnygirl. Am , like you, at the implication that anyone who thinks they have been a pair of crass pillocks on this occasion is a wannabe Mary Whitehouse. Talk about fatuous generalisation!

Oh how could you lapin. I just regurgitated my lunch all over taxpayers' property!

Apologies if my posting comments from the BBC complaints log is irrelevant. I was discussing how I thought that all these complaints should now be ignored as they are obviously from people who were not offended at the time of broadcast and who have only listened to this programme (And therefore been offended) since they were alerted to it.

The offence caused towards Sachs is no doubt real but surely it is being made worse by having all these people tell eachother to listen to a programme they would not normally listen too in an attempt to get them to complain to the BBC.

I just mean to say be very carefull who is pulling your strings and for what purpose.

I just read all 11 pages of this and then listened to the you tube clip. Thought it was v funny. Did/do people really find it "horrifying," I can see ill-judged or silly, but not "horrifying."

"Beanie - it does your argument no good at all to make sweeping and negative judgements about the opinions of those with whom you disagree. It is highly derogatory to the other posters and their opinions to suggest that they are speaking based on blind bias rather than, as I see in their posts, an intelligent appraisal of the incident in question."

not my intention whatsoever to make sweeping generalisations. Several people here and on the logs have expressed their already existing dislike of the two presenters.

Oh and thank you for your apology earlier - much appreciated

The response to this intrigues me - the BBC was very slow to apologise and Brand's sniggering and insincere apology on Chris Moyle's show might even have prompted the furore. Those involved really did not seem to understand that they'd seriously overstepped the mark.

Maybe with all the relentless bad economic news lately people are jumping on this and Osborne/Mandelson as a distraction? Lots of main stories in the news right now seem to be about egomaniacs who got carried away, whether the CEOs of major banks, politicans or these.

Hasn't this talked itself out yet?

Sorry, have to say that I really don't think it was that bad. I'm slightly amazed by how much the UK have to say on the subject tbh. Didn't hear it but if I had done I know it would have made me LOL in a shocked, oh how naughty way.
I often LOL at RB & JR. I think it was a mad silly moment that got a bit out of control. That's what they are about. Why they have such huge ratings. What the BBC pay them for. I think it was a bit odd for the team involved to make the decision to go ahead and air it, they could easily have cut it but they didn't so all invloved should get a wrist slap and apologise and move on. I'm sorry I just really don't think it was that bad at all. I just don't. I can't wait for this to be yesterdays news.

I think I'll wait to see what this grandaughter has to say!

YEAH - I saw that - I mean what she has to say in response to the apology.

Where did you copy and paste that from!

I agree Thomcat

I complained!
No I didn't listen to show at the time but then I dont listen to that claptrap. (heard it on youtube) However I am still disgusted that the BBC aired it and am intitled to complain.

Also RB has done this before. He said that he had slept with Rod Stewarts daughter and that turned out to be untrue, and there was the call he made to the police to say he had spotted a wanted sex attacker in the audience of his show.
Classy guy

I didn't hear this but was listening to the radio on the M1 today and EVERYONE was doing outraged: Vanessa Feltz, some bloke on LBC, Capital, 3 counties, the lot!

On Radio 4 they were discussing the economy so I ended up listening to that.

Storm in a teacup imo.

Flynnie - Did your knowledge of what R Brand is llike influence your decision to complain?

Also - why did you watch/listen on YouTube if you knew you were llikely to be offended?

Not really. I complained because the BBC should not be airing abusive phonecalls.

I listened to the youtube clip because I couldn't very well complain without knowing exactly what was said could I?

Btw I wasnt offended I was appalled.

I find the posts about what older people find amusing or threatening very interesting indeed. One day I found my 70 year old in-laws laughing their arses off to something in the paper. It was the story about Jonathan Ross saying "Heather Mills is a fucking liar, I bet she's even got 2 legs!"
They thought it was hilarious. Not offended in the least. There will be loads of oldies out there who love a bit of blue!

I don't remember all this outcry with that incident but then again, Heather Mills isn't very well liked is she? Maybe if these two had done this to a less likeable celebrity, then people wouldn't be so offended on their behalf.

Ah - I just learned the true meaning of Appalled, never bothered to look it up before.

But would they have been laughing if JR had been saying that YOU were an etc, etc ....?

It's the personal angle that hurts.

Bride1 - No they prob wouldn't have been laughing, but then if thats the case then why are people on here taking it so personally then? I would find it hard to believe that nobody on here ever had a laugh at someone elses expense.

Of course no one has ever had a lugh at the expense of someone else, some celebrity... on here?! No! never!