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Remember the poor baby who was denied milk for 18 hours in Yarls' Wood?

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edam · 10/10/2008 18:44

Can't find the original thread, but I was one of several MNers who complained to my MP about this story

Anyway, my MP has replied. Meg Hillier, a (very) junior minister at the Home Office, says they got lots of letters and the Border Agency's Children Champion Jeremy Oppenheim, is reviewing the case and has arranged to meet Alison Blenkinsop from Lacatation Consultants of GB.

Ms Hillier says 'I am confident that any recommendations resulting from these measures will be fully considered and, where appropriate, implemented.'

I suppose at least the protest has forced them to think about the way this poor child was treated. BUT nowhere does it say that anyone has apologised to the family, or that anything at all has changed.

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edam · 11/10/2008 15:02

Will try - we do have a scanner somewhere but I don't know where, haven't used it recently. Will ask dh.

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ChairmumMiaow · 11/10/2008 17:59

I'll scan my version of the letter next week. Hopefully DH will be able to do it on Monday (scanner in the office)

p.s. Morgan - I'm Kat who does your web stuff so I can put it on the site if you want!

edam · 11/10/2008 20:53

The key pars are:

I have received a number of letters from other Members of Parliament on behalf of constituents echoing identical concerns. I am aware that this particular case was the subject of correspondence between Brian Pollett, Director of Detention Services within the UK Border Agency, and Mrs Alison Blenkinsop a member of Lactation Consultants of Great Britain and that some of the contents of this correspondence have been reproduced and discussed on internet sites leading to further public interest.

I have seen the exchange of correspondence between Mr Pollett and Mrs Blenkinsop and I am satisfied that Mr Pollett's reply seeks to address the very serious accusations that have been made including that the baby's life was put at risk, that she was deliberately starved, showed signs of malnutrition and that her treatment constituted criminal neglect.

Lin Homer, Chief Executive of the Border Agency and Liam Byrne have both taken a personal interest in this case. We take allegations of this kind extremely seriously and are determined that our care of children should be of the highest standard. Jeremy Oppenheim, the Agency's Children Champion, will work with Brian Pollett to review what happened in this case and, as part of that, will talk to both the UK Border Agency staff involved and our contractors. In addition, Brian Pollett and Jeremy Oppenheim have also arranged to met with Mrs Blenkinsop and other concerned parties to discuss this issue and seek an appopriate way forward. I am confident that any recommendations resulting from these measures will be fully considered and, where appropriate, implemented.

I hope this helps to explain the position and will enable you to reply to any other constituents who raise this matter with you.

Meg Hillier
Parliamentary Under Secretary of State

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edam · 11/10/2008 20:54

It's dated 30th September, btw.

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morgangee · 11/10/2008 21:35

In addition, Brian Pollett and Jeremy Oppenheim have also arranged to met with Mrs Blenkinsop and other concerned parties to discuss this issue and seek an appopriate way forward. I am confident that any recommendations resulting from these measures will be fully considered and, where appropriate, implemented.

Hmm... totally not true. If it wasn't for the dates, I'd presume this person writing was just misinformed about who was going to be at the meeting. But as this is two weeks past the meeting date... hardly likely.

Edam, I'd write your MP, outlining the misinformtation, and ask him to prompt for a clarification of this 'meeting' given that there isn't one.

Maybe they'll unsnarl it then.

Just caught up on ChairmumMiaow... so we do have a scan of this letter? Can you email me it? I can then send it onto the MPs who are already badgering, in case they've received it, and set the letter straight.

I do think everyone who received it, should badger their MP back with the facts that this meeting does not exist. Again, however, I can't do anything myself, until I see it! :-)

And I'm back to where I've always been on this. It's not that they do these things... it's that they feel they can get away, with doing these things, even when challanged and under the public's eye. That's the totally worrying part...

edam · 11/10/2008 22:27

so what meeting did you have, with whom? Want to understand before I get back to my MP.

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morgangee · 12/10/2008 06:21

On the 15th of September, Alison Blenkinsop and myself, met at Yarl's Wood, with UK Border Agency and Serco staff present. I can't name them, as they refused to allow me to do so. Likewise, I can't report much of what was said, as they refused to agree on the wording on anything. They were considerably more junior than Brian Pollett and Jeremy Oppenheim. This letter to your MP, is the first time I've seen Jeremy Oppenheim's name mentioned.

The only point they would agree, was that it was an administrative problem, that resulted in the formula not being brought in in time. They declined to agree on how to 'term' the administrative problem. They rejected "communication breakdown" and several other terms. They said the administrative issue would never arise again.

However, they refused, point blank, to accept that there was any 'issue' with Baby C's care and treatment, in terms of giving the baby oral rehydration sachets for the time period. They stated 15 hours, not 18 hours. They did state that the baby had been 'fed', and we protested robustly that oral hydration fluids was not food. They ignored all of Alison's points that the baby required food, and that not giving it food, was an unacceptable standard of care. We stated that's all we wanted, a statement that it was an unacceptable standard of care, and an assurance it would never happen again. They rejected this completely.

They also stated that the formula was not a prescription item, several times, and again refused to take on board that it was, when Alison and myself stated it was. (This is important, as it really calls into question their assertion they phoned several out of hours chemists. Not only does the time line not allow for this, if there was no prescription, they could not have obtained any formula, and, further, any chemist phoned would have told them this.)

When asked point blank why they simply hadn't picked the phone up and phoned the Bedford Hospital, they refused to answer. Likewise, when Alison asked how she was told by Brian Pollet at 10.30am, the formula was in the compound, why the baby hadn't been given it 'till 1pm, they refused to answer. We were 'nitpicking' on unimportant detail and let's 'move forward' shall we?

For interest sake for your MP... the only other thing that was hard and fast discussed, with them admitting it, was that a letter I'd written to Yarl's Wood medical, about conditions and safe formula prep, in April 2008, had never been answered. This contradicted UK Border Agency's previous statements, to me, in writing, that I had had several repsonses, including dates the responding letters and emails were sent out. The UK Border Agency person who had told me in writing, in no uncertain terms, that I'd been responded to, in quite a sharp fashion, was in the room. Yet she never apologised to me. Serco stated they had apologised to her, and they did apologize to me for the lack of being able to find the letters. When I pushed on why UK Border Agency had been put in the position of being told that Serco had responded fully when this wasn't true, nothing was put forward to explain it. No words we used to describe this, were accepted by UK Border Agency. They refused to describe it variously as - lies, misinformation, a breakdown in communication. Just that they could not locate any correspondance, and as the member of staff concerned was no longer in their employ, and they would not suffer any more discusion on it. This is something an MP would find interesting - a UK Government department being told by a contractor, that a concerned party had been fully answered on a legitimate communication. But when pushed to produce copies of such when the concerned party stated she'd had no response at all, no correspondance could be found.

The meeting was difficult, and un-productive. As they refused point blank to accept that there had been any lack in the care of Baby C, we left with nothing having changed from when we went in. And as we had no permission to discuss anything at all, there isn't much more to say. Serco actually turned round to the UK Border Agency person who was in charge of the meeting, and said something like "Careful what you say now, she'll put it on the itnernet."

I did point out that Transparency and Accountability were basic tenants of our current Government, and this was about such, but that was ignored as well.

No change will come about at Yarl's Wood in the area of not feeding the baby for so long, as they maintained there was nothing wrong with that. They simply refused to discuss it at all.

Feel free to copy and paste this to your MP, as well as tell your MP I can discuss it in more detail, directly with them.

I found it very interesting that they are so 'shy' of Mums on the internet... obviously we are some amazingly dodgy bunch, not tax payers and voters.

edam · 12/10/2008 10:58

Thank you, will definitely pass that on.

It should be shocking. It is shocking. But based on the story so far it's not entirely surprising.

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morgangee · 13/10/2008 15:31

one-of-those-women.blogspot.com/2008/10/if-you-complained-to-your-mp-about-baby.html

Spread the word, and get back in touch with your MP, even if they've not told you about this letter - they should have had a copy of it, from Meg Hillier.

If they haven't had a copy - another reason to complain.

morgangee · 15/10/2008 10:49

edam,

Can I have the name of your MP please? Journalist would like to contact all MPs who received the letter, and ask their opinon.

Anyone whose MP received the letter, can you email me the MP's name on morgan at dreyfuss dot demon dot co dot uk

edam · 15/10/2008 10:52

Peter Lilley.

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Tamarto · 15/10/2008 11:25

I am now a pesky internet mum

morgangee · 15/10/2008 11:36

Fab!

I'm hoping we see another news report on this now... :-)

Damn us pesky internet Mums!

Tamarto · 15/10/2008 11:48

I have Emailed you.

morgangee · 17/10/2008 12:34

I invite you all to play...

Spot The Difference

nursingmatters.org.uk/baby_c_home_office_response/spot_the_difference.html

froggyfroofroo · 21/10/2008 08:24

i emailed my MP and received this response(copy and pasted)

Dear ***,

Thank you for your email drawing my attention to the recent incident in Yarl's Wood IRC, in which a 12 week old baby was left without food for over 18 hours. The Government must ensure that such incidences never happen again.

As per your request, I shall write to the Minister responsible for the work of the UK Border Agency, Phil Woolas MP, and pass on your complaints. I shall suggest that the UK Borders Agency issue a promise that this will never be allowed to happen again. As soon as I receive a response, I shall let you know.

In the meantime, thank you once again for drawing my attention to the unacceptable standard of care demonstrated in Yarl's Wood. Please do not hesitate to let me know if I can be of further assistance in this, or any other, matter.

Best wishes,

Jeremy

Jeremy Hunt
Member of Parliament
South West Surrey

i hope this will help!

morgangee · 02/11/2008 21:07

We got an apology!!!!

Full details here:

one-of-those-women.blogspot.com/2008/11/stitch-in-time.html

Edam, you letting us know about this letter was SO IMPORTANT!!! Thank you!

I'll do a thank you post for everyone to see.

edam · 04/11/2008 10:14

Brilliant! Am so glad I helped in just a tiny, tiny way. You ad Alison have done an amazing thing and should be very proud.

Has the family had an apology yet, though? That's what really shocked me about the reply - that it had clearly not even passed the tiny mind of these officials that saying 'sorry' to the real people involved might just possibly be appropriate.

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