is it unsisterly to think that Sarah Palin is horrid and the worst possible example of a woman in power

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ok, I used to think that as women we ought to support other women to almost unreasonable levels. i was totally for Hillary despite Obama's star appeal.... but then came Sarah Palin. i abhor her and everything she stands for. i am incredibly disgusted by the level of PC that prevents people from stating the obvious, ie that she is an incredibly BAD mother and she gives women a bad name.. i mean WTF, going back to work after 3 DAYS of giving birth, exposing your pregnant 17 yo to national attentionand not being there for her while she needs you most... she keeps banging on about being a hockey mom but having delivered 5 children is not the same thing about being a good mum. she is also incredibly, scarily unqualified for the job. i cannot find one ounce of feminist feeling for her... and it makes me question my beliefs!

I loathe her because she's a right-wing nut job. I don't give a flying fuck how she chooses to raise her children though. I feel sorry for her daughter that she doesn't really have any option but to get married, and that she didn't get better advice/access to contraception. The idea that Palin's a bad mother because she has a career and that she should be at home advising her daughter on motherhood is ridiculous.

And as to WHABT, any US president has nuclear launch codes. Does that mean that it wouldn't be safe to have a female president in case she got PMT and took out Russia?

How she choses to raise her family is her own business. We would never question a male politician's parenting choices like this.

What concerns me more is her stance on the environment. She does not believe in Global Warming; supports oil exploration and open cast coal mining in Alaska, cruel hunting of bears and wolves by plane, and opposes the polar bear being an endangered species.

As far as the "Britons" having an opinion. I welcome their input. We all live on this planet. When we engage another country for whatever reason it effects everyone.
Btw, if you want to find out unbiased reports of what is happening in the world CNN isn't what you should watch...watch the BBC.
Sorry again off subject.

'Btw, if you want to find out unbiased reports of what is happening in the world CNN isn't what you should watch...watch the BBC.'

The BBC is anything but unbiased, particularly when it comes to anything to do with the US.

I agree that Sarah Palin is horrible and the worst possible example of a woman in power because her stances on all issues pertaining to women aim to set women back into the dark ages.

Not far enough back for some apparently ByTheSea

UQD - made me laugh, especially the end bit "I bet she smells real nice, I'll do anything for her.."

I agree dittany.

Definitely Habbibu, If MaCain were a younger man he would probably be less likely to have any health problems...stresswise.
He wouldn't have that wonderful war background though either.
Unfortunately, a war background isn't what gets them in office. If it was we would be looking for more war service experience and backgrounds. Which really isn't such a bad idea given the history of our own doing terrorist acts on our own soil. ie. McVeigh and the D.C. Virginia shooter.
I think every president and VP should have served. They would at least know what they are sending the forces into when they engage another country and perhaps have a better hand in their training.
Back to subject. I am not anti-women in power. I am however painfully aware of how having children and the roles of mother differs from father.
If Todd is willing to be mother/father then great. Still SP doesn't strike me as the best choice for VP.

I don't personally care about her parenting skills. However, railroading your 17 year old daughter into an unhappy marriage seems rather cruel. I certainly would question a male politician over this, too.

What I do care about is she stands for everything that I am against. Another 4 years of war-mongering Republicans is something the world could do without.

Expatinscotland, In comparison. You get a very cheery, oh yes we are doing a great job and everything is rosy gest from CNN in comparison to the BBC.
I don't know if it is that way when England is the subject but it is that way when discussing the US. At least from my tele.

To the point...ask yourselves why did they choose SP? Everyone was very excited until her past was dragged out, but you want to know whatever because their past actions are a hint of their future actions.
Secondly, because she is a woman this brings the party a lot of media coverage and brings out more voters...on both sides.
No one votes for someone that doen't represent their interests.
Only time will tell how this is going to turn out.
I really want to thank you all for your viewpoints though. This thread has been one of the livelier ones.

The presidency is a very stressful position. Our government usually doesn't get anything done without scratching each others back (so regardless, only half of what party and their viewpoints get in gets done).
I would love for a woman, young, strong with experience to be nominated as VP.
My concern is that a lot can happen in the four year term. If something happens to MaCain I would hate to see SP become the next President. She is relatively harmless as VP and MaCain is a tough old bird but again...four years is four years.
I would love to know more about what went on with your ex-brother in law. Not delving into family but her trying to use her governorship to get rid of his superior for not firing him. Like I said, past acts hint at future ones.

Don't give a monkey's whatever about the gender/race of the candidates, it's their policies I'm looking at.

Along the young, strong, experienced line I was joking to my hubby last night that I wish Ivanka Trump would run.
Shes young, strong, very savvy...unfortunately she isn't in politics.

my bad, Her ex-brother in law...SP's not yours
K, have to go.

I absolutely love her.

I'm an independent and was floating between McCain and Obama, with McCain having the upperhand, but Sarah Palin sealed the deal for me.

She lives what she believes, and I respect that tremendously.

how do we know the daughters marriage will be unhappy? i hope she's gloriously happy for the next sixty years. She might well be - marrying young and because of a pregnancy isn't a death sentence - my ex-inlaws got married 40+ years ago because she was pregnant and they're still together and happy. Theres nothing to suggest at this point that palins daughter and son-in-law-to-be will be divorced within six months.

dittany, There are two sides to every story. The media hunted down the ex brother in law. The 10 year old asked him to taser him and then bragged to his friends about it.
He never made the death threats about his father and there were several (20 numbered) investigations into the charge.
His superior has the job of hiring and firing, not the governor.
He admitted he had made other mistakes like having an open beer can in the vehicle but that wasn't the issue as SP's husband also seems to have a similar charge (DUI) in his record.
The only reason this is brought up (citing the not delving into famly statement) is because SP doesn't seem to be able to separate her political governship from her family politics.
She does however keep pointing a finger at the Obama party saying they are the ones dredging up her past when Obama has said family is off limits and he will fire any of his crew that brings up SP's family.
Her viewpoint on the issues...I don't agree with but that isn't why MaCain asked her. They asked her because she is a woman and they don't seem to have researched her before choosing her. Too late now. They bought their ticket and will take the ride.

I think her family should be left out of it really. I wish she would stop dragging them on stage with her. She should be judged on her policies. The pro life thing would rule her out for me as would the creationism. She is obviously not a woman who sets any store by logic, reason or science, we would never agree.