Road tax increase - will yours be more?

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Not even sure what ours will be - we have an older BMW, don't think they do the same model any more! We don't currently come under their A-G rating, presumably as our car is over 10 years old.

According to the list, the same model by the same manufacturer post-2001 would pay £35. We will be paying £120 because ours is pre-2001. That means we will be paying more because we have an older car. Yet in environmental terms the impact of building a new car is far worse than buying an old one. And people who run older cars generally tend to be less well-off than people who buy newer - that's why they go for cheap, fourth or fifth hand models.

I want to buy a Peugeot 107
not only are they lovely little cars, but 35 tax per year and going down to 20 tax next year!
just got to convince DH!

mine will be less, dh's will be more

dh's Golf less, my Volvo V50 slightly more.

As a family, slightly less

That's not true, edam, new more efficient cars are thought to have less impact on environment than keeping old polluting bangers going (depends how much you drive, and how polluting the banger, but there are several studies that have come up with that conclusion as a general rule of thumb).

I don't know what our road tax will do... but compared to the overall cost of motoring, I don't think it will be more than a 2-10% annual rise in total annual cost of motoring, for nearly everybody (if we had a new but polluting MPV, with our relatively very low mileage, it would still only be about 16% rise on total costs for us, and we would be the extremely affected).

So I'm confused why this is has turned into a big political issue.

Brighton is zafira city they are all going to be up in arms

I think it's an issue because it's yet another tax rise when people are suffering from the credit crunch: the straw that broke the camel's back sort of thing.

The actual increas is not so significant in terms of my annual budget. But, when will it end? When will Gordon Brown practice fiscal responsibility? (I know, never)

riven that's just what I thought - I don't think it will persuade the footballers to give theirs up somehow!!

More.

Although i question the logic behind it.

Can some explain it to me. If i cannot afford the extra £100 plus for road tax how am i supposed to find 20k plus to buy new enviromental freindly car .

Trying to understand the tax increase on cars when the airport is to be expanded?

The tax on dh's car is going up. He's going to get a bigger car in the same (new) tax band.

Might as well be hung for a sheep as a lamb.

The political issue is that Gordon Brown promised that exisitng cars wouldn't be affected by the changes to road tax, only new ones. He then slipped it into the budget without announcing that they'd changed their mind and older cars would be affected after all

My tax is currently £210 and is going up to £455, but I guessed that would be the case

I'm confused can someone more clued up with this help me?

We've got a Toyota Estima 8 seat jap import which is M reg, we pay £185 tax at the moment

will we have to pay more now or will ours stay the same?

It's pretty simple. If it was registered before 2001 (and an M is probably 95/96) then it will stay the same.

We bought a new Zafira in 2001 thinking it was a not extravagent family car. We knew we would be strapped for cash until the kids finished school/maybe uni and so when we had the cash decided to get a car that would hopefully last that long. We had had our previous car for 13 years and intended to run this for an equivalent timeframe. I don't remember any figures on emissions being quoted then - we have quite a 'green' mentality and would have taken note if they had been - we bought a model with an mpg monitor (quite rare then) and drive economically.

So, yes I'm rather fed up. I don't believe it is truly better for the environment to replace older cars that aren't used for a huge amount of mileage even if we could afford it. Manufacturing a vehicle uses 33% of its lifetime energy - if you scrap it after half its life then that figure will rise to 50%.

Thanks for explaining DaisySteiner

Is there a website somewhere that gives the new tax rates per model, engine size, year?

here

Thanks, Katy

OURS WILL BE 455 AND 200 - SCARY!