European Cyber Attacks

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq1kd1nee80eo

The news article doesn’t mention who or what is behind these attacks, I suppose that’s because we don’t know for sure?! But it just feels a bit like leaving a massive elephant in the room unmentioned.

I think I can guess who is responsible but can someone better educated than me say why no one is reporting who it is?

I'm no conspiracy theorist but if history has taught us anything it's not to trust mega corporations nor the people they employ. It's a multi billion dollar business, they do what they want.

Home delivery jobs are great news for the over 25s! What about the 16yo who wants a casual job at the weekend?

I'd happily pay more so my kid has a chance of some employment when they leave school.

30% increase to employ humans to serve customers... they must have saved that much (probably more) when they implemented the self checkouts so why not?

Well that sounds lovely. Unfortunately most people don't want to pay more for food.

Because if your a supermarket with thousands of fridges you need a way of monitoring that they are all working correctly. I imagine there’s an obligation to check the temperate of fridges periodically to maintain food safety, and checking the temperature of thousands of fridges multiple times a day and recording the results would be horrendous without some form of connectivity. But having got that connectivity, it would seem a good idea to have some security as well…

I won't get a ring doorbell due to all the videos shared on the dark web where people can intercept your video and watch when you come and go - very useful for wannabe burglars.

Apparently there are literally millions of home cctv/pet sitter camera setups that are unprotected and can be accessed via the dark web.

Hikvision and Dahua are Chinese manufacturers that supply all British authority CCTV (police stations/roads/town centres/courts/hospitals) and they have an inbuilt system that can be controlled by the manufacturers. The UK government got so nervy about it that they have banned these companies from military and government premises. Still everywhere else though.

Very useful for future cyber wars.

Now that's dark.

Tbh it’s not worth employing 16 year olds. They need more breaks and are restricted on what hours they can work plus I’d never put them on a checkout because they can’t sell age restricted items. The hard truth that people don’t want to hear is 16 year olds can’t do a lot and are more of a hindrance to the team and create extra work for everyone else.

There’s also more to home delivery than drivers. Your order doesn’t just jump off the shelf into the van so I don’t know where you have this over 25 from?

This isn't about trusting mega corporations. It has been tested by security experts who have the proper equipment and knowledge to see exactly what is going on.

Things must have changed then because I was perfectly useful as a checkout operator from the age of 16 - I always sat within sight of an 18yo or older who could authorise alcohol. And didn't need extra breaks!

I'm going to guess you don't have kids (or that yours are all grown up). Because you're being pretty hostile about 16 year olds.

@TeaBiscuitsNaptime your phone is video calling you? Can you explain that a bit more please?

It seems like everyday it’s something else
but the labour defense budget hasn’t increased?

twice in the past week my workplace has sent round emails to be careful of a sister organisation having been hacked and sending out dangerous links

it’s just seems like it’s a new thing every day now

If they are going to have to call an adult every time they sell an age restricted product (and you should know that’s not just alcohol) then what’s the point? You might want to google about extra breaks and the laws around what hours they can work, it would be helpful for you to know if you have a teenager looking for employment.

And yes I do have kids thanks, I’m just not uninformed about what a 16 year old can legally do in the workplace, times have changed since we sent children up chimneys.

Interesting that you ignored the part about not needing to be 25 to work in home delivery and how supermarkets have changed massively since the self service checkouts (that have supposedly taken jobs for children) have come into play. You are going to be horrified when you see the robot cleaning machines in supermarkets I suspect.

I know all that, but the other thing is that when it comes to food hygiene and safety, the temperature inside must be checked manually by a human every day anyway. That's according to my relative who is in hospitality. She thinks having them internet-connected is absolutely absurd. And she's been proved right.

If you think that any testing by experts is legit when you're going up against a company like Amazon then more fool you I guess.

If you think it isn't, more fool you. I've worked with these people at one of the major antivirus suppliers. They have all the equipment and experience needed to figure out exactly what is going on. And they would have no hesitation in saying so if they found that Amazon, Google or any other large corporation was listening to your conversations. Their business depends on being truthful about these things.

I've just read that donated blood in France has been affected now too.

This really is something that needs resolving quickly.

olivietolivie's point about the app-controlled heater is a useful one for the rest of us. Whatever's behind these attacks, it's worth checking that your heating, smart plugs and anything else on an app can still be worked by hand if the wifi or the app goes down. A few small notes in a drawer help too if card machines stop, and if your freezer ever cuts out, keep the door shut: a full one stays cold for about 2 days.

No problem at all. Ya, for the past 5 days or so, I'm getting a Google meet video call, every time abuse is picked up on my calls! It's very odd. Like, if there is any mild verbal abuse at all or anything it regards as boundary pushing, the phone starts ringing.

I answered it once or twice out of sheer curiosity and it just showed a live video of myself on the call. With no one else there. I had been asking questions on AI about a guy I know to check if his behaviour was controlling.. Thought it was odd because I wasn't signed in