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Was Jason Arday just the perfect victim?

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KellyK2026 · Yesterday 16:01

Surely I can’t be the only one that feels like Jason Arday was a victim, right? Yesterday he was found dead and I feel bad for him. Here’s the reasons why I think he was a victim:

  1. It is absolutely insane to me that Cambridge University would appoint him as a Professor when he was in the early stages of his career. It’s practically unheard of. At any university you typically have to earn your dues (which means working as an academic for many years) OR do something truly special, like a Nobel Prize nomination, to be promoted to Professor. I cannot imagine the amount of pressure he had been under to prove himself and likely had a tremendous amount of imposter syndrome. Cambridge let him down.
  2. I’ve worked in academia for many years, and let me tell you, academics are under a tremendous amount of pressure to publish. This pressure can compromise quality. Arday isn’t the first nor will he be the last to publish questionable papers.
  3. As I’ve worked in academia for years, I’ve experienced academics make racist and sexist remarks first hand. One white academic I worked with got drunk at a work get together and started a rant about how Black people shouldn't be president (this was when Obama was in power), that Obama was a Muslim and interracial relationships were ‘disgusting’. What made this somewhat even worse was that this particular academic wrote about racism in the public sphere, so he profited from writing about Black struggles while harbouring these personal views. There was no repercussions for him, despite presenting himself as something other than what he was.
  4. I’ve also been sexually assaulted at a conference by a male academic. No repercussions for him either and he no doubt pretends to be a feminist in his work.
  5. I don’t think it’s in doubt that Arday had autism. Now I don’t know how it affected him personally, but, again, that must’ve been extremely difficult and perhaps even blurred what is and isn’t acceptable in higher education.
  6. He was also cleared of plagiarism but, again, so many academics have plagiarised ideas and papers, but they haven’t been strung up like Arday has been.
So, long story short, I feel like Cambridge let him down. And I feel like he was targeted because there’s plenty of other examples but they never get called out and nobody cares. It was a witch hunt. But I’d be interested to hear what others have to say on this matter.
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HollyhocksandPeons · Yesterday 17:49

I felt literally gutted last night. I mean, sack him, don't pay him for his lies, but hound him like that? I have never seen anyone hounded so enthusiastically - YouTube multiple podcasts, etc.
One more thing - probably illogical, but when I first heard about his plagiarism, I tried to listen to the interview of his main accuser, Coftas or Costas on YouTube - I could not last more than 15 minutes - the guy had evil, evil,evil vibe and spoke like a sloth on tranquilisers, barely several words a minute, straining, squirming. It was disgusting to watch.

Mapletree1985 · Yesterday 17:49

A victim? No. I don't like these simplistic labels. This was a man who lied, cheated, and weaponized the police against people who threatened to expose his deceit. Was he entirely the author of his own misfortune? Also no. People around him colluded with his Baron von Munchausen-style confabulating because it furthered their own agenda. I'd say it was more a case of everyone involved using everyone else for their own benefit. Was he failed by people who should have safeguarded his mental health? Yes, although I'm not sure who falls into that category.

BadBadCat · Yesterday 17:50

It's really sad that he took his own life instead of getting help and support to deal with the situation.

However, I don't believe he was a victim. He seems to have exaggerated and made false claims in all aspects of his life for whatever reasons. That's not OK. He shouldn't have been allowed to get away with that just because he was black and supposedly had SEN. How can we know what the truth is? Only those close to him and himself will know the absolute truth.

There needs to be an investigation into the institutions where he worked and studied to ascertain what went wrong.

I don't think the interest and scrutiny from the press and public was really fuelled by racism; if it was just a case of plagiarism on his thesis it wouldn't have been very interesting, it's all the other wild claims he has made about not learning to read until 18, having developmental delay, the unbelievable sports feats etc. that have raised the biggest questions and invited further scrutiny.

Holidayhooha · Yesterday 17:50

MyPeachBiscuit · Yesterday 17:46

I feel very sad for his family.

There's plenty of academic misconduct that goes on - check out Leonid Schneider's blog, for instance - but the media doesn't really give a shit unless it's a black guy with cornrows.

Very sad for his blameless children. Presumably his family benefitted from his comfortable professorial salary which now seems to have been achieved fraudulently. I assume they won’t be required to repay any of it but wonder what they thought of the improbable narrative in which he became enmeshed.

KellyK2026 · Yesterday 17:54

Holidayhooha · Yesterday 17:50

Very sad for his blameless children. Presumably his family benefitted from his comfortable professorial salary which now seems to have been achieved fraudulently. I assume they won’t be required to repay any of it but wonder what they thought of the improbable narrative in which he became enmeshed.

Why would they repay any of it? What a strange thing to say. He still fulfilled his required duties which were to teach students and mark essays. And a great salary? It’s like 80k a year. He’s hardly living the high life.

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MauriceTheMussel · Yesterday 17:54

Holidayhooha · Yesterday 17:50

Very sad for his blameless children. Presumably his family benefitted from his comfortable professorial salary which now seems to have been achieved fraudulently. I assume they won’t be required to repay any of it but wonder what they thought of the improbable narrative in which he became enmeshed.

And his wife.

Surely she knew the truth and had to hear him regurgitate just absolute nonsense about his life

MauriceTheMussel · Yesterday 17:55

KellyK2026 · Yesterday 17:54

Why would they repay any of it? What a strange thing to say. He still fulfilled his required duties which were to teach students and mark essays. And a great salary? It’s like 80k a year. He’s hardly living the high life.

It’s double the UK average salary… brought about from lies… it’s basically proceeds of a crime at this point

Opus3 · Yesterday 17:56

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Are you for real?

This is a sick comment.

KellyK2026 · Yesterday 17:56

BadBadCat · Yesterday 17:50

It's really sad that he took his own life instead of getting help and support to deal with the situation.

However, I don't believe he was a victim. He seems to have exaggerated and made false claims in all aspects of his life for whatever reasons. That's not OK. He shouldn't have been allowed to get away with that just because he was black and supposedly had SEN. How can we know what the truth is? Only those close to him and himself will know the absolute truth.

There needs to be an investigation into the institutions where he worked and studied to ascertain what went wrong.

I don't think the interest and scrutiny from the press and public was really fuelled by racism; if it was just a case of plagiarism on his thesis it wouldn't have been very interesting, it's all the other wild claims he has made about not learning to read until 18, having developmental delay, the unbelievable sports feats etc. that have raised the biggest questions and invited further scrutiny.

I do genuinely feel like if I went into work and said I used to be a pro footballer, I’d wrote and published a book, and I ran several marathons on a broken leg they’d be an intervention. So I don’t understand why Cambridge didn’t step in. That’s what doesn’t make sense to me.

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AInightingale · Yesterday 17:57

This guy should have been sectioned, for his own sake. He would been alive today had someone had intervened a few days ago. Maybe that's an indictment of our crappy mental health services, but Cambridge could and should have paid for him to have support.

I think in a way he had zero resilience as he experienced so little professional failure. Doors sprang open for him, and he didn't need to graft as the vast majority of academics do. Then when the wheels came off, he was utterly devastated, especially given that it was coupled with shame at having his fraudulent CV pulled apart.

123H · Yesterday 17:58

Americanstyle · Yesterday 16:36

Some of these posts are just vile… is this how we as humans behave now. The man has taken his own life, isn’t that enough?

Totally agree!

What have we become if we feel little empathy for a man who felt compelled to take his own life.

He was a black autistic man from a humble background and, in the snobbish, competitive, largely white middle class, pressurised world of academia (of which I have experience) he probably felt the compulsion to over compensate.

The poor man was probably constantly trying to prove his ‘right to be’ and masking his distress and anxiety.

Yet the media piled on for clicks, even when they’d been told that Arday was in a vulnerable state. And now that the poor soul is dead, people still demonstrate a sickening lack of empathy.

I wonder if some of the posters on here would look his grieving widow or mother in the eye and repeat their vile comments. Probably not - cowards!

KellyK2026 · Yesterday 17:58

MauriceTheMussel · Yesterday 17:55

It’s double the UK average salary… brought about from lies… it’s basically proceeds of a crime at this point

He’s got a PhD, it’s still a high pressure job, and he’s living in the most expensive city in the UK (London). It’s not a fantastic salary to support a family on. Politicians are on ten times as much and lie through their teeth all the time and they work no where near as hard as an academic.

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SerafinasGoose · Yesterday 17:59

Schoolshirtshopping · Yesterday 17:48

Being black was not the issue, being appointed because he was black and being protected from scrutiny because he was black is. That and the fact that he was symbolic of the widespread corruption of much of academia.

You state very confidently that he was over-promoted, cosseted and protected on account of his skin pigmentation but the media scrutiny and criticism had no similar relevance to the same characteristics.

How on earth can you know this with such certainty?

You can’t.

aberamagold · Yesterday 18:00

Americanstyle · Yesterday 17:32

I’m not interested in what he did, really! there are men out there that have committed far, far worse crimes and haven’t had an ounce of the abuse, vitriol and hatred that Jason received, and it’s not stopping even after he’s taken his own life, and if anything, judging by some of these threads, it’s just getting worse.

Where did you see this abuse, vitriol and hatred?
I've been fascinated by this story, and I haven't seen anything of the kind. Just people calling out his lies and laughing at him.

I also hate the use of the expression 'hounding'. If journalists have been camping outside his house and harassing him in pursuit of a story, I'd agree that's hounding, and cruel.
Commenting on the internet about a story of national interest, as it raises concerns about the integrity and judgement of British academics and journalists, is not 'hounding'.

LeedsLoiner · Yesterday 18:00

What would really have spiked journalistic interest would have been the issuing of the letter from Carter-Ruck to a journalist to “cease and desist”.
Far from stopping investigations that’s pure catnip to any investigative journalist worth their salt.

GeneBelcher · Yesterday 18:01

I'm not sure about the Imposter Syndrome- I think he could have done with more of that, frankly,
You've cherry picked some examples of racism towards non-whites within academia but the racism towards white people is off the scale - you seem to have glossed over the whole DEI issue - or maybe I've misunderstood, I mean it's the issue here.
To sound brutal, if someone is very upset by criticism, it doesn't mean that they should be immune from it- that's just emotional blackmail.
He and his university were receiving public money and the public has a right to question its spending- DEI has been a disaster and cost the public dearly- including in terms of safety- so, again, the public has a right to question this.
If someone is autistic, they also cannot be unaccountable for their actions where these concern other people and other people's money.
Where I agree with you is that this is tragic- he's had smoke blown up his arse for years, he was handed a position he did not merit, he's traded in being a victim (and accused his own white students of enjoying white privilege) and I guess I don't blame him- who among us would not do the same.
So to have all that come crumbling down along with the hugely embarrassing fantasist stuff- and in so public a manner- it must have been horrendous.
I do feel he has been the lightning rod for the problems with DEI and I feel desperately sorry for him there but that is not on those asking the questions.

Schoolshirtshopping · Yesterday 18:02

Lunde · Yesterday 17:34

Did he have no proper supervision of his PhD work then?

I don't know how it works in the UK but when I did my PhD thesis at a major European University there was regular oversight into my work:

  • 8-10 formal meetings annually with my 2 supervisors per year - approx once a month between September and June plus additional meetings as required.
  • I had to present my findings at various stages on completion at 2 hour departmental research seminars attended by the department's academics and where an opponent was appointed to grill me (3 times). Plus I had to present my research methods paper at a national doctoral research methods conference.
  • A manuscript conference with my supervisors and 4 invited expert guests
  • A public PhD viva in front of the panel of examiners (in total around 80-90 people present) plus an expert opponent flown in from the US

So I'm not sure how issues with the PhD thesis weren't caught

For my PhD my supervisor barely passed by, he signed off each year as a formality without asking about my work. I was examined by one internal and one external examiner in private (viva voce). I believe the university has since cracked down a lot on PhD supervision.

On the other hand Arday claimed he was supervising 15 PhD students alongside his other academic work, teaching, writing his memoires, all his public appearances, speaking engagements and charity fundraising … so perhaps the standard of PhD supervision isn’t any higher at Cambridge.

KellyK2026 · Yesterday 18:02

LeedsLoiner · Yesterday 18:00

What would really have spiked journalistic interest would have been the issuing of the letter from Carter-Ruck to a journalist to “cease and desist”.
Far from stopping investigations that’s pure catnip to any investigative journalist worth their salt.

I agree totally. And the police poured fuel on the fire when they decided to investigate the journalist who accused JA of plagiarism. The whole system seemed to come together to create the perfect environment for a media shit-storm.

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HideousKinky · Yesterday 18:03

There is a very interesting interview with Kathleen Stock about JA on Unherd in which she is highly critical of Cambridge University.

Her opinions of his actual work are worth hearing as she has made a point of reading it

Hoardasurass · Yesterday 18:03

Nothing that man claimed about his personal achievements outside of academia was true, even his mutism was a lie (teachers and former classmates have come forward to call him a liar). His world record ultra run from Edinburgh to London with no evidence or his claims of running 30 marathons in 35 days the last 9 with a broken leg. The £5.5 million he single handedly raised for charity, that became he was part of a syndicate but NDAs means he can't name anyone else in it.

I could go on for pages about his lies. The man was a fantasist who was aided and abetted by people in multiple universities who should have know better but all had personal agendas and saw him as a vehicle to push them.

Nobody seems to have cared about his lies other than how much more special they made him look or what the consequences would be when it all came out.

But let's be honest here Arday was no victim but an active participant when a journalist contacted him politely by email 3 times with valid questions about the plagiarism allegations instead of responding he set the police and a high powered law firm on the journalist.

That Arday killed himself is sad however its a well known outcome when fantasist are publicly proven to be liars and fantasists

malefields · Yesterday 18:03

I feel bad for him and his family. He obviously had some serious mental health issues that were indulged instead of addressed and when it all came to light, all fingers were pointing solely at him instead of the whole context.

For a few days my feed was full of articles about what was a very unwell man. Shameful.

Glitchymn1 · Yesterday 18:03

Not familiar with what he did/didn’t do but I don’t think it was worthy of so much press. The level of scrutiny he was under sounds OTT poor bloke saw no way out - that’s unacceptable. He didn’t murder anyone!

Schoolshirtshopping · Yesterday 18:05

SerafinasGoose · Yesterday 17:59

You state very confidently that he was over-promoted, cosseted and protected on account of his skin pigmentation but the media scrutiny and criticism had no similar relevance to the same characteristics.

How on earth can you know this with such certainty?

You can’t.

Because they announced it all over the media. And because legitimate scrutiny was met repeatedly with accusations of racism.

Destiny123 · Yesterday 18:06

KellyK2026 · Yesterday 16:56

Oh I agree Cambridge has a lot to answer for. I have seen the excerpts from his PhD and I agree parts of it do look copied verbatim and other parts copied with minimal changes. But he was cleared, so it doesn’t really matter what I think. I do wonder how many other PhDs would be caught out if they were put through software like his was, but why was his chosen?

As far as I’m aware, him not speaking until 11 and not being able to write and read until he was 18 hasn’t been discredited yet and there’s been people who have corroborated this story, including a university lecturer who spent hours with him teaching him.

I think the truth is somewhere in the middle and we will never know the full truth. But he was front and centre of every news outlet and I don’t think that was deserved. If he had mental health problems that should’ve been dealt with sensitively. And Cambridge should’ve done their due diligence before appointing him.

I assumed all uni essays went through plagiarism checkers? My medical school degree, pgce in medical education and masters essays all are at point of submission (3 different universities miles apart

singthing · Yesterday 18:06

KellyK2026 · Yesterday 17:02

But politicians lie all the time, from how much money they are getting from donors to tax avoidance. They are in high power positions, but I’ve never seen anything like what was directed at Jason Arday. He resigned and it was still relentless.

I'm not sure I agree that MPs (as your example) are spared this level of interest.
From where I sit now I can see my copy of No Expense Spared. It details the behind the scenes of the MP expenses scandal some years back. Including the relentless coverage churned out for days and days on end across print, TV and online media. Every single day was carefully planned to create another splash story and the targets were rightly vilified for it. Even now, if you just mention a MP and a duck house, most people who were watching the news then would make the connection. It led to the public disgrace and downfall of several very highly ranked individuals who all knew better and were deliberately acting with bad intent.

A better example of a genuinely vulnerable person being chewed up by the media is Katie Price. Even/especially on MN, people go after her with absolute hatred almost non-stop. But she hasn't actually done anything wrong, for the most part. I know there are some real concerns about some animal treatment, but 99% of the abuse is about her appearance and other unrelated topics.

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