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wonder what sentence this terrible couple will get

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cupsoftea · 27/06/2008 11:38

Wonder if they'll get life without parole - lets see uk justice at work.

imho they should be locked up & the key thrown away

news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1320227,00.html

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shinyshoes · 27/06/2008 11:42

They won't get anything near what they deserve IMO.

They never do

mishymoo · 27/06/2008 11:44

People like that should be sterilised or their dicks cut off so they can't have any more children!

Let's hope they never see the light of day again!

DoubleBluff · 27/06/2008 11:46

Poor child.
How come no one reportes what they saw?

emmalou23 · 27/06/2008 13:44

Evil!

shinyshoes · 27/06/2008 16:08

How come family never noticed.

That evil bitch looks like she's almost sneering in that photo.

She got 12 years for Child neglet. Apparently she could have got 22 years if it had been murder.

And it wasn't murder because?????????

how come he got 5 for manslaughter, isn't manslaughter where they end up dead but it wasn't premeditated or deliberate.

EXCUSE ME!! shock]

Hopefully they'll get their comeuppance in jail

greenelizabeth · 27/06/2008 16:11

What a sad short life poor Tiffany had. It is heartbreaking. I am inclined to agree with the poster who suggested that somebody found guilty of the manslaughter of a child should be forcibly sterilised.

expatinscotland · 27/06/2008 16:12

in the UK?

they'll be out in a few years, given a new identity courtesy of the taxpayer.

then the goverment will scratch its head and wonder why thugs continue to perpetrate the way they do.

hayley2u · 27/06/2008 16:25

think they should be tortured, burnt then hungscummy b*. what is wrong with people pass her to social srvices get her adotpted or kill your self , hope they never get to see daylight again. realy sad the por baby girl

edam · 27/06/2008 18:20

I heard a terrible detail on the radio news headlines. Apparently her pathetic excuse of a mother didn't even notice the poor child was dead for a couple of days. Beyond appalling.

reethi96 · 27/06/2008 18:23

My dad lives close to the pub and went in there once but had to leave because it was so filthy and smelly. Apparantly residents nearby are heartbroken that they didn't realise the little girl was in trouble, lots of people who went to the pub didn't even realise they had children.

edam · 27/06/2008 18:26

But by the time the case came to court, they were running another pub - how the hell did they keep the businesses going?

reethi96 · 27/06/2008 18:28

I caught the end of this on the news earlier and it said that the mother had been on the phone to someone as she was concerned that her dog was losing weight and not in good health and yet she didn't realise her daughter was dead.

clumsymum · 27/06/2008 18:31

why did he get a lesser sentence than her?

They both allowed the child to die. Why do the court assume his responsibilty was less than the mother's?

Rosaline · 27/06/2008 18:47

Agree with expat again. There needs to be a total rethink of sentencing in this country. If more people knew what most "life" terms actually mean there would be outrage, but the terminology deliberately confuses people.

allgonebellyup · 27/06/2008 18:57

clumsy - i thought that too - why does the mother get a longer sentence? Surely they should both have exactly the same sentences?

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cupsoftea · 27/06/2008 20:07

12yrs - that's all. It's shocking that life means so little both to both sides - justice & those convicted. Let life mean life.

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EyeballsintheSky · 27/06/2008 20:21

When do you stop crying over this stuff? Before I had DD, items like this, although appalling, didn't really touch a nerve. I know that sounds awful but it's not what I mean. It's just that now I cry for hours over this sort of thing. I heard something on the news this afternoon about a different case altogether involving children and I had to pull the car over as I couldn't see to drive. I couldn't get the thoughts out of my head all afternoon. I know I'll lie awake thinking about it tonight as well.

This can't still be hormones (dd is 5.5mo) so I assume I'll feel like this for the rest of my life?

yerblurt · 27/06/2008 20:29

They are beneath contempt for their neglect and killing of this child.

My heart goes out to the biological father, he must be in absolute hell poor fella.

my opinion on the sentencing? absolute farcical, 25 years each with no chance of parole at all should be the minimum

... am I the only person who seems to wonder why hard labour is not introduced? I want to see the return of the chain gang, I want to see scum like these digging ditches, cleaning graffiti off walls, wearing big prison uniforms like guantenamo (?spelling) bay outfits.

never mind, every day inside they will be getting a beating, nobody hates child molesters and child killers more inside, that at least is some small comfort.

may this poor child's soul rest in peace, poor mite.

Rosaline · 27/06/2008 20:46

Eyeball, I don't think you can ever forget some stories- you just have to blank them out and I have also become much more sensitive to them since becoming a mother myself. I imagine this is quite normal.

I was once driving and listening to the most unbelievable (except it was all true) treatment of a 5 month old baby girl by her father. I just couldn't make sense of it at all or forget about it. I stopped buying the papers around this time, and now I just don't read the details of any of these cases because I think it's just too awful and damaging to absorb the horror of someone inflicting cruely on a defenceless child.

I know that in the case I mentioned the killer got one of those "life means 10 years" type of sentences. It's so awful- prison shouldn't always mean rehabilitation or protecing the public or whatever, sometimes justice should just mean retribution and punishment and a life sentence where someone rots until the day they die is a real punishment.

hertsnessex · 27/06/2008 20:50

bast*s. i hope they are abused as hell in jail.

Beav123 · 27/06/2008 23:50

like you eyeball, can't get this story out of my head. just want to know why - what sort of person does this? keep thinking about that poor little girl - only small comfort is that her suffering is over. what a disgrace, she was failed by so many people.

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cupsoftea · 28/06/2008 10:03

what about all the people who must have worried about her? they should have done something. So many people just walk on by.

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micci25 · 28/06/2008 10:20

well according to the news last night people should have seen this little girl peering out of the window upstairs. after seeing two stories now where little girls have been seen looking out of windows but rarely seen outside of the house/pub, (there was a girl who came from my town who was systematically beaten to death over the course of months by her mother and her boyfriend ), i will be calling ss if i ever see anything similar and i will keep calling untill i feel something is being done.

i would rather run the risk of reporting an innocent person than allow things like this to continue!

12 years is no where near enough for starving a child to death and leaving a sick child alone for days before eventually dying alone and scared!! i too hope that they get everything they deserve in prison! he got less because he was apparently away when the girl was dying and was unaware that she was ill! so i guess that means that he didnt know she wasnt being fed properly for months/years and living in squallor?

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cupsoftea · 28/06/2008 10:24

agree micci - If I see anything troubling I'll call the authorities & actually see something happens. If only people had asked & actually go to check on the little girl. Why didn't the father do something?

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CrushWithEyeliner · 28/06/2008 10:26

agree with expat - they will be out v soon if well behaved

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