Rhiannon's Law - calls for electronic tagging of boat migrants following tragedy

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Rhiannon Whyte, the young women
working in a migrant hotel - stabbed 23 times by a man staying there

'After the killing he displayed no remorse, with footage captured him dancing and laughing on CCTV. He was jailed for life and must serve a minimum of 29 years.

The Conservatives have demanded that all illegal migrants be electronically tagged and subjected to curfews, as the mother of a woman murdered by a failed asylum seeker led calls for a new law to bear her daughter's name.'

I'm concerned the only solutions to these issues the government seems to have is to roll out a surveillance state - however
Rhiannon's Law, makes sense - her mum is now fighting for electronic tagging to be used.
if nothing but a slight
deterrent to criminal activity, it has to be positive step

claiming asylum in Ireland isn’t a deterrent to committing crime though? As the stabbing in Belfast shows!

No but the movement means it becomes the UK’s and Labour’s problem.

There’s only a soft border and you can’t make it a hard one so that movement will really put pressure on Belfast. People will riot if there’s more crime.

Rwanda was an incredibly effective way to reverse the flow of people. ROI wouldn’t be happy politically over it, but this direction is worse for us.

The small boats problem's almost unfixable unless you're prepared to tear up basic precepts of humanity. Successive governments have found that. It's the predominant issue of our time, at least in the minds of the public, and if there was a way of resolving it, even at vast expense, it would have happened by now.

Other European countries have much higher numbers of refugees/asylum seekers than we do.

Anyone with half a brain can see that certain parties are keen to create a bogeyman for political purposes (and, with the help of the likes of the OP, are succeeding). Jewish people in the 30s, communists in the 50s and 60s, it's a tale as old as time.

The problem with the Rwanda deterrent effect is that it was very temporary, as it became obvious that the actual scheme was practically unworkable.

The biggest snag was individual legal cases, but as a way to get people to move on voluntarily to ROI it was effective.

I hadn’t heard this, absolutely awful story but I’m not sure how tagging would have helped or why it’s the go to answer after this tragedy.

Of course not. Australia as at the top of human rights tables.

Op are you aware this is in Feminist chat- sex and gender board? I suspect you are very well aware. You know it shows up on everyone’s feed right and responses don’t say anything about those nasty terfs.

I know this would involve money but why can't we process asylum cases before people land on our shores? You can only claim asylum if you are physically in the UK so if we give people the option of a legal process without risking boats and suffocating in lorries, we can immediately start to filter the people with bogus claims who will risk boats.

Desperate families won't die, boat crossings should reduce and hopefully it should be a little easier to track and monitor the remaining crossings.

Not a magic bullet but surely more cost-effective than tagging.

I think the common denominator is men, let's tag men first and see what the outcome to violence to women is.

Just as an aside to the fact that there is a soft border between Ireland and "UK", thats hardly our fault now is it.

Why would that border be our fault?

Scrapping a policy that reversed the flow of people is though, well Starmer’s.

God people dont understand.how tags work this is painful.

Standard electronic tags require an address with a box on and only alert the hub if.youre not home between curfew hours - plenty of.crimes can be committed outside of curfew hours - they can also just be cut off.

GPS tagging is probably what the hard core want tracks people only when they are wearing it but the power packs have to be charged every 24hrs (so usually overnight), they regularly run out of charge and again if you take them off, they run out of charge or you have so fixed address to have the box and charge them then whats tje point
.also expensive kit.

So basically a totally pointless request and argument.

Give them a phone and see which country they ring.