Mugabe please can someone explain to me

[1shoe]

why this monster(apologies to monsters but didn't want to swear) is being allowed to get away with what he is doing? why is the rest of the world not stopping him.
I mean this country.

what should we do? how should we stop him?

What would you suggest 1shoe? Sanctions? Bombing?

It's a truly awful situation but he's been getting away with it for years. Isn't that just the way of the world? We're not so pure over here. We go into countries where we have no business and bomb and threaten.

I don't agree with what Mugabe has done to that beautiful country but I don't see what the rest of the world can do to stop such a monster.

(back to my proper name) surely someone has to stop him. at least 73 people dead. and I think that was just recent

this is waht I don't get. we can go to war over oil. but the powers that be can't seem to do anything to stop him. I just don't understand it.

i think we need to encourage the leaders of other african nations to take a firmer stance with him first.

Intervene in a non oil-producing country. Surely not.

if there is to be intervention it should be by the un, not us as a nation

I quite agree 2shoes, I don't get it either. Is the UN doing anything?

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as always its such a difficult situation, even if he was removed in someway you are still left with lots of people that do support him (mad as they may be, so it could easily lead to civil war, which would be never ending. a few years ago i am sure many people in iraq thought that if they just got rid of saddam everything would be ok, but it just does not work like that.

Actually, if the powers that be were that savvy, they would intervene for exactly the same reasons they intervene with oil-producing nations.

Let's face it, the stuff is running out. It will be the farmers, and countries like Zimbabwe and South Africa, who will be the future 'oil barons'. It won't be too much longer before most engines run on crop fuel.

It is a absolute attrocity that we have not done anything to stop this devil in carnate. But as always we will do nothing because there is no money there, we are leaving these people to starve under his regime, and we do what? Nothing, threaten sanctions, please what will that do, these people are being murdered for opposing his dictatorship, starved because of his greed. The only thing that could save that country would be his dimise, and a lot of money being ploughed into the economy.

But dont hold your breath, no oil, no help.

We - the UK and neither the UN can save the world though; sad and tragic as it is... I think our armed forces are spread thin enough at the moment as it is, without adding in more rescue missions.

I think Britain is loath to interfere due to the colonial aspect. Mugabe has cleverly tapped into our modern psyche, and has realized that Britain is perhaps the last nation who would intervene.

The problem is that the rest of the world thinks that we should be the very first nation to intervene, so they also do nothing, but for very different reasons.

I suspect there's much going on behind the scenes, however.

My current AP's family are Zanu PF supporters, and they are just ordinary people.

Yes, as were the people who voted in Mr Hitler.

Not much to compare, there. Of course, it does strengthen one particular point of view if you just dismiss people who don't support it in one sentence.
As I am not personally involved, I am not going to go into their reasons for supporting ZPF, suffice to say that I respect her political views, and I don't dismiss her as a Nazi.

Hmmmmm

My FIL works for Zanu-PF (although having said that I think it's more for the fact that he's hoping for the chieftainship than actually "supporting" them) - while the rest of H's family are mostly MDC supporters - thankfully so far most of his family have been "safe" because of FIL's political connections.

Nobody on any news I watch ever seem to say how brave the opposition leader is. He(and his supporters) must spend their whole lives in fear but they just battle on regardless.

I don't know anything about the politics over there,presuming he'd be a better leader if he got into power(couldn't be any worse).

What happens now if they've pulled out?

It's absolutely horrific, I can see why we can't intervene but other nations close by ought to.

I read somewhere that there is a rumour that Mugabe has end-stage syphilis, hence going mad. he is definitely crazy and wicked and paranoid.
Think the comparison with Hitler is fairly reasonable, given what is happening to the poor suffering people of Zimbabwe.

I agree with Desi.

I also think that Morgan Tsvangirai has done the very best thing he could do. Not that he had much choice. And getting rid of Mugabe suggests that he is working alone, when clearly there are thousands of his 'supporters' out there who are happy to carry out his handiwork. It'll be a quick fix that wont actually achieve much. There will still be division, there will still be the rich robbing the poor, there will still be the strong overpowering the weak instead of supporting them.

The whole of Africa needs to condemn the current situation. But with the recent violence in SA towards Zimbabwean immigrants simply reflects the attitude of many countries at the moment.

I don't believe the UK should get involved in any way shape or form. I hate that all we can do is stand by and watch, but, it's Africa and the UN who should act. I'm quite happy for immigrants who oppose Mugabe to head over this way and settle here, rather than my tax pennies supporting another costly, fruitless (ha) and damaging war which will end up with everyone condemning our intervention and assigning ulterior motives for our involvement.

yeah I guess I can see how mudering hundreds of thousands of innocent people in Iraq can be condemned. Shame Mugabe isn't sitting on an oil well.

hundreds of thousands?