Looks like Obama has won the nomination

[MarsLady]

'I'm amazed at how many women hate Hillary. Talk about shooting themselves in the foot. '

So women should have supported Hillary because she's female?

Um, that's sexist.

And assuming people didn't support her because it's some type of popularity contest is insulting.

If I came on here and started a thread insinuating popularity is what motivated British voters and not issues and they're too moronic to decide based on anything else you wouldn't be able to open the thread for the heat coming off the flames.

Yipee! Yay! Yay! Yay!

I couldn't be happier.

I hope McCain wins. But, even if he doesn't I'll still be happy that it isn't the horrid Clintons.

YIPPEE!!!!!

Life is good... getting better.

i'm curious, AtheneNoctua - specifically how will life get better if McCain wins?

I'm curious myself because I for one would never presume to judge the voting choices of millions of people in countries where I don't live.

Athene's American.
Tbh I'd feel entitled to comment on UK politics if I moved to France next week.

Yes, because you retain a right to vote there, Lyra, and you have strong connections to teh place.

But I've never lived in Canada, am not Canadian, don't have family there, can't vote there. So for some reason, I don't see where I'd be a position to criticise or judge (or worse) the choices Canadian people made at the polls.

It's a democracy. For the most part, a good one. Fair play to them whom they chose to do their business.

Sorry Expat, i though your quote:

I'm curious myself because I for one would never presume to judge the voting choices of millions of people in countries where I don't live.

was directed at Athenenoctua.

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No, I know Athene, FWIW.

It's just a point of curiousity for me, really.

I mean, it's impossible to know what the mood is in another country, or how the media covers each candidate or the like, or the perspective that others may have when they go to exercise their right to vote, etc.

Certainly, when you travel abroad, you may notice how differently Britain is portrayed from how it really is and feels at home.

This is true of other places as well.

But we're global citizens, aren't we?

World politics affects us all to a greater or lesser degree. Why shouldn't we question or debate the choices made by voters in other countries? OK, we can't affect their choices but surely debate is healthy?

My god, dittany, the accusations of irrationality coming from you are beyond rich.

You have NO idea what motivates people to support the candidates who do.

You just presume things for hundreds of millions of people that you don't even know living in a place you don't.

And that's somehow rational how?

Are you in the US now, participating in media coverage of the campaigns?

If not, how do you know definitively?

You don't. You know what you're shown here.

There's debate and taking your own media's word for it, misfit.

TBH, it's downright laughable.

And Hillary is pure as the driven snow.

Just like any and all politicians.

air strikes in pakistan? i didn't know he'd threatened that. I know he was talking about 'doing whatever it takes' to stop Iran getting nuclear weapons...

I was backing Hils, but I wish Obama luck. He's going to need it. Anyone but McCain!

I just wished they'd picked whoever could beat mccain... His sing song of:
bomb, bomb, bomb
bomb, bomb Iran.
sung to beach boys barbara ann is slightly scary.
personally I prefer Gore Vidals opinions

We moved to America last summer from London. I have satellite radio in my car, and can listen to the BBC.

On their news reports they seem to consistently seek (and find) the most extreme redneck, racist, and prejudiced people to interview about the election - people who were saying 'I'd never vote for a black man' or 'a woman can't handle the pressure of being president'.

Now, doubtless those people exist, but I thought it was outrageous that those extreme views were what was broadcast by the BBC as 'representative' of the American public and US politics. There were no balancing soundbites from any one of the rational and tolerant millions of thoughtful and articulate Americans.

It has been a real eye-opener to see just how much a news organisation (like the BBC) can influence public opinion (in the UK) by what they present as 'facts'.

Dittany, you are right. People hate Hillary more than they love Obama. Unlike you, I think the reasons to hate Hilary are perfectly valid. She is everything I detest. Obama's politics are actually quite similar: pro socialised medicine, anti-war, etc. But, at least he is of moral character. And while I disagree with his politics, I can respect him. I can say President Obama without cringing.

I still prefer McCain because his political views are more in line with mine (fiscally conservative, more socially liberal than our current president) and let's face it we aren't pulling out of Ira any time soon. And he is the only one (current president included) who qualified to guide that war. And with a brother and a nephew at war in Iraq, I care who is leading them.

Expat, don't you mean "Hilary is as pure as the yellow snow"?

Amen, Earlybird!!!

Oh for goodness sake, as a whole, the American press liberally biased. They are pro Clinton, not anti. Hilary and Bill are just acting like sore losers.