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NigelPonsonbySmallpiece · 19/07/2025 14:28

LizzieSiddal · 17/07/2025 19:11

It’s attitudes like yours which allows disasters like this to happen, because if one of them had actually cared they would have made sure this situation was dealt correctly.

There is zero excuse for letting this child run around the hospital unsupervised. Someone in this situation should be held accountable.

And I’m absolutely fed up hearing of professional not doing their jobs properly and then others making excuses for them.

I’m sure the staff on duty that day feel awful but I’d hope that the blame isn’t unfairly placed on them. Obviously if someone wasn’t doing what needed to be done then that’s different. But maybe the blame needs to be pointed higher up the hospital at managers? Maybe the staffing levels aren’t great? There is very unlikely to be 1-1 care so if a nurse is busy with another baby/emergency then there’s the potential for this to happen and it not be a nurses fault.

They also need to look at the layout of the NICU ward. I’ve worked in one previously with lots of smaller rooms with maybe only 1 or 2 babies in each room. Doors are open to each room but there’s not a member of staff in there all the time, not enough staff. The idea is if a baby deteriorates the alarm goes off loudly and gives you enough time to get there and sort it out. Which works for a deteriorating baby but not for an incident like this. That ward has now been completely redesigned and is one huge open plan room allowing staff to have a helicopter type view. Small screens can be moved in for privacy reasons if needed (not ideal in some situations).

SapphireSeptember · 24/07/2025 16:01

CustardCreamDippedinTea · 17/07/2025 19:38

His father shouldn’t have dropped him off there.

But if his mother wasn’t able to supervise him, he should’ve been with hospital security until police/ social services turned up. He should never have been allowed to be alone and hospital shouldn’t have allowed it. Enormous safeguarding failure for both patient and the 6 year old.

However I don’t believe the 6 year old is totally blameless….
My 5 year old would never pick up a baby without asking. She’d know they were real and poorly. And that’s without ever having visiting hospital. I can’t imagine any of her friends doing this in the guise of play. This is clearly a neglected / troubled child which isn’t his fault, but he did murder a baby. I think he really needs to be in a secure unit or care home with lots of therapy, and hopefully it’ll be the only horrific crime he commits.

Very sad situation.

Glad I'm not the only one who found it suss. I had three younger siblings by the time I was 6. Aside from bouncing my baby brother in his bouncy chair a bit too enthusiastically when I was about 21 months myself, I managed to not hurt any of them, let alone pick up and drop them. My friend's 6 year old DD held DS, she understands he's a baby and if she drops him she could really hurt him. That people heard a bang in different rooms makes it sound like it was forceful.

God that poor baby girl and her family. It's heartbreaking. 🥺

Bunnycat101 · 24/07/2025 19:28

Thing is though it sounds like the previous incident should have sparked a massive review and was clearly a red flag never event: baby found with no nappy and hypothermia. They had the chance to put in place measures and didn’t so on those grounds I think the hospital will in trouble.

The whole situation is utterly heartbreaking.

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