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Saw this news story - is this mum a mumsnetter?

51 replies

MamaMaiasaura · 25/05/2008 21:39

Dont know why but this story rang a bell with me.. Anyone else?

here

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popsycal · 26/05/2008 12:29

I too know Jesomnd is lovely

Hope the woman and her daughters are ok and safe.

TheArmadillo · 26/05/2008 12:30

abuse isn't such a rare occurance that it would be an unlikely reason to leave.

She has teens with her - one of them could have raised help if she was unhinged in most circumstances.

Very few women flee the home, without warning, with all their children for other reasons.

Yes there could be other reasons but suspecting abuse is not exactly a huge assumption to leap to.

solo · 26/05/2008 12:36

I hope she is ok and the kids too...

SylvieBruno · 26/05/2008 12:41

She didn't leave because all was well

Her husband is not on the news pleading with her to hand herself in for the sake of the children. Interestingly, he is keeping a low profile.

If I seriously thought my ex would harm the children and if he took them, I would be on the news holding up his photo.

edam · 26/05/2008 12:43

Think that goes for all of us, solo.

madamez · 26/05/2008 20:26

Obviously we don't know and we can't know, but on the little information that's given, the two likeliest explanations are that the woman and the children have fled from an extremely dangerous abuser, or that an abuser has killed them all and has reported them 'missing'.

wannaBe · 26/05/2008 20:37

but there's no mention of a husband. the artacle said that she moved to the northeast with "her five children" no husband mentioned there. Also no mention of how/by whom she was reported missing.

I would have thought that if it was an abusive situation where the abuser wanted to regain control, there would have been appeals for her return/or at very least a quote saying that her "partner" had said he was extremely worried etc but nothing.

When I first started reading it I too thought violent relationship, but with no info on a partner etc am not so sure.

NotABanana · 26/05/2008 20:42

Wondering whether the police should be told if she has posted here and therefore pointing them in the direction of where she might be?

Surely the police can't make her go back if she is running from an abusive partner?

singyswife · 26/05/2008 20:50

It sounds as if the police have been made aware of her and her childrens disappearance which means someone misses them. I dont think the police want to send her back as make sure that they are all okay. I hope they are all okay and if she is trying to escape then I hope the police leave her to it, tell the partner/whoever that she is ok and leave it at that. Good luck to her.

wannaBe · 26/05/2008 20:50

have googled and nowhere is there mention of a partner, only that she moved here with her 5 daughters.

Also there is mention that police believe an organization may be helping her. if it was a refuge then police would know they were safe, so that senario doesn't sound plausible to me.

Nab I do actually think that if she has posted (or someone suspected of being her) then the police should be informed. She is an adult after all, but she has 5 young children with her, and we really don't know the circumstances.

But not sure it's up to individuals to speak to police - think better to contact mn hq and let them deal with it.

cat64 · 26/05/2008 22:24

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nametaken · 27/05/2008 00:46

Wouldn't a reputable organisation such as Womens Aid inform the police that she was safe with them? They wouldn't have to say anything more.

NotABanana · 27/05/2008 09:22

I agree wannaBe. Do you want to alert them?

edam · 27/05/2008 09:24

Maybe she's running from Social Services? Which could be justifiable or could be very worrying for the childrens' welfare, who knows...

wannaBe · 27/05/2008 09:30

exactly nametaken.

Tbh I think it's very that there are people that would shelter someone from the police. It's one thing sheltering someone from their abusive partner, but quite another sheltering someone from the police. What if her children were at risk and you withheld information about their whereabouts, and something happened to one of them?

wannaBe · 27/05/2008 09:45

nab tbh if this woman has posted on mn then I haven't seen the threads in question, so even if I were to speak to HQ and say that this woman has posted here, I wouldn't be able to show them where/when/what etc.

but I do think that if someone knows who/where she is then they should speak to mn hq at the very least and let them handle it.

NotABanana · 27/05/2008 09:58

I agree, again.

So, who knows where she posted?

edam · 27/05/2008 10:15

It's a very tricky situation, I agree. If someone is sheltering them, though, presumably that person knows a bit more about the rights and wrongs than any of us? Of course if I knew them personally I'd think very carefully about whether to alert the authorities but those authorities are not perfect. Plenty of cases where they have failed to intervene where they should, or been far too heavy handed. So I suppose it depends on one's personal knowledge of the people involved. I don't have any.

wannaBe · 27/05/2008 10:42

Edam I agree to an extent, but I do think there's a difference between knowing someone personally, ie having known them for some time in rl, having met them in rl and having a rl friendship with them, and knowing someone based on the information they have given on a site like this.

It makes me very uneasy when I see the lengths some people are prepared to go to on here, to help out what is essentially a complete stranger. With offers of money/place to stay etc, when all they really know about that person is the information they have given on here. Given how supportive mn is known to be, I think someone who wanted somewhere to hide mieht be all too prepared to fabricate a story about domestic violence, knowing that there would be people on here who would be prepared to hide them from the authorities.

PortAndLemon · 01/07/2008 10:19

More information now released

forevercleaning · 01/07/2008 10:22

how can she be missing all this time with 5 kids? amazing that she was not found within the first couple of days.

themildmannneredjanitor · 01/07/2008 10:27

gosh.

reminds me of madam reynaud.

edam · 01/07/2008 10:40

Oh, how very sad. She's certainly a troubled lady but I can't help thinking I'd go on the run if SS were after my children. I know, I know, there are probably good reasons etc. etc. Hope very much they are all safe.

LadyMuck · 01/07/2008 10:44

Women's Aid would not inform the police, at least not without the woman's consent. Nor would most other similar organisations.

yummymummy4 · 01/07/2008 11:34

I know someone with a personality disorder and so I hope that she gets the help she needs soon.

It would be very easy for someone to think they are doing the right thing by helping them so the police were right to release this information.

I hope she and her children are all safe and being looked after by someone and are not alone.

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