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Why has Israel attacked Iran?

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AutumnArrow · 14/06/2025 08:58

Does anyone have understanding of the current situation?
I can't see the logic behind attacking such a strong country, which whilst it may have been a threat was currently not actively attacking them?
Is it a play to try and drag other countries into fighting as allies?

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IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 14/06/2025 11:42

noblegiraffe · 14/06/2025 10:54

5 countries invaded Israel the day it was created.

You do understand that there are many people in the region who don't want, and have never wanted Israel to even exist?

What do you think the Iron Dome is for? Why do you think Israeli houses are built with safe rooms?

Yes, I realise that - but that still doesn't give you the right to indiscriminately kill large numbers of the population - including babies and children - on the expectation that they might attack you at some point.

If powerful people and their forces attack you, and you then retaliate and take them out and destroy their operations, no issue at all - they got what they deserved.

If the man who lives next door to me keeps saying threatening and nasty things to me, that doesn't mean I can throw bricks at his toddler in the garden. Even if he goes on to physically attack me, it still isn't his toddler's fault, and a 2yo doesn't deserve to die for their father's wicked acts.

tropicalteas · 14/06/2025 11:43

Israel seem to have the idea that they need to eradicate the threat rather than control the threat. In some ways I can see the reasoning behind this but in this scenario you always have so so many innocent victims so I find it horrendous.

noblegiraffe · 14/06/2025 11:51

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 14/06/2025 11:42

Yes, I realise that - but that still doesn't give you the right to indiscriminately kill large numbers of the population - including babies and children - on the expectation that they might attack you at some point.

If powerful people and their forces attack you, and you then retaliate and take them out and destroy their operations, no issue at all - they got what they deserved.

If the man who lives next door to me keeps saying threatening and nasty things to me, that doesn't mean I can throw bricks at his toddler in the garden. Even if he goes on to physically attack me, it still isn't his toddler's fault, and a 2yo doesn't deserve to die for their father's wicked acts.

What do you mean 'might attack you at some point'?

Do you think that Iran hasn't been and isn't currently attacking Israel?

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 14/06/2025 11:57

2024onwardsandup · 14/06/2025 11:41

Yes poor brave defenseless lovely Iran

I strongly disagree with you there, as I believe Iran IS a very dangerous, powerful state, and the government's treatment of many of their people - especially women and girls - is evil.

But attacking them for what they might do is still wrong. And Iran is a large country with millions of ordinary, innocent people who have to live there, who will undoubtedly suffer terribly from strikes from another country - it isn't just the corrupt, appalling government.

What if Iran did decide to pre-emptively attack Israel, on the grounds that Israel definitely does have nuclear capability - and is firmly backed by the only country in the world that has ever used nuclear weapons on innocent people - and how many innocent Gazans have died and been bombed and starved as a result of their deliberate actions? Would that be justifiable?

Just because the governments of some countries are dangerous, belligerent and unstable, that doesn't automatically mean that Israel isn't potentially as bad and should get a free pass without any criticism.

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 14/06/2025 11:59

noblegiraffe · 14/06/2025 11:51

What do you mean 'might attack you at some point'?

Do you think that Iran hasn't been and isn't currently attacking Israel?

Then why the surprise and the reporting from multiple news sources of Israel's attacks being 'unprecedented'?

foxgloveswaving · 14/06/2025 12:00

MiloMinderbinder925 · 14/06/2025 09:08

Netanyahu has been threatening Iran for years and he needs to keep Israel in a perpetual state of war especially now he's got Trump in office. I have no idea what the end game is because he's stirring up a hornets nest, but he seems to be completely deranged.

Releasing the hostages? Not having to have bomb shelters on every street?

foxgloveswaving · 14/06/2025 12:01

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 14/06/2025 11:42

Yes, I realise that - but that still doesn't give you the right to indiscriminately kill large numbers of the population - including babies and children - on the expectation that they might attack you at some point.

If powerful people and their forces attack you, and you then retaliate and take them out and destroy their operations, no issue at all - they got what they deserved.

If the man who lives next door to me keeps saying threatening and nasty things to me, that doesn't mean I can throw bricks at his toddler in the garden. Even if he goes on to physically attack me, it still isn't his toddler's fault, and a 2yo doesn't deserve to die for their father's wicked acts.

Just wow.

foxgloveswaving · 14/06/2025 12:02

Some of you know absolutely nothing about Iran posting here is just utterly embarrassing.

noblegiraffe · 14/06/2025 12:16

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 14/06/2025 11:59

Then why the surprise and the reporting from multiple news sources of Israel's attacks being 'unprecedented'?

Given the state that Gaza is in, have you never wondered where Hamas gets its money and weapons from?

2024onwardsandup · 14/06/2025 12:18

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 14/06/2025 11:57

I strongly disagree with you there, as I believe Iran IS a very dangerous, powerful state, and the government's treatment of many of their people - especially women and girls - is evil.

But attacking them for what they might do is still wrong. And Iran is a large country with millions of ordinary, innocent people who have to live there, who will undoubtedly suffer terribly from strikes from another country - it isn't just the corrupt, appalling government.

What if Iran did decide to pre-emptively attack Israel, on the grounds that Israel definitely does have nuclear capability - and is firmly backed by the only country in the world that has ever used nuclear weapons on innocent people - and how many innocent Gazans have died and been bombed and starved as a result of their deliberate actions? Would that be justifiable?

Just because the governments of some countries are dangerous, belligerent and unstable, that doesn't automatically mean that Israel isn't potentially as bad and should get a free pass without any criticism.

Iran has been and is attacking Israel

SisterTeatime · 14/06/2025 14:37

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 14/06/2025 11:59

Then why the surprise and the reporting from multiple news sources of Israel's attacks being 'unprecedented'?

I don’t mean to be rude - genuinely - but you do know what ‘unprecedented’ means, don’t you?

Slowgrowingelm · 14/06/2025 14:39

OverlyFragrant · 14/06/2025 09:14

Because Iran is frighteningly close to developing nuclear weapons. And they have openly said they want to wipe Israel out completely.
The International Atomic Energy Agency found Iran non-compliant for the first time in 20 years. Iran are doing something!

They are funding Hamas and Hezballah to commit acts of terror against Israeli citizens. They fund terrorism globally, including here in the UK.

Honestly Iran are not good guys in any way shape or form. Neither are Israel.

It's their neighbours I feel sorry for, being piggy in the middle as misses fly above their citizens.

This 👆🏻

Iran are not the good guys, in any way or form.

daisychain01 · 14/06/2025 15:01

Israel wants regime change.

They also want to remove any possibility of Iran using nuclear weapons and given the recent intelligence (significantly aided by US) that the Iranians have enough enriched plutonium and uranium to cause serious damage, they took the opportunity to eliminate those who might deploy weapons again Israel.

lots of smoke and mirrors re whether US is or isn't supportive of Israel. That's Trump's approach, say something one day, take the diametrically opposed position the next.

arguably Israel's action is highly beneficial to Western countries and something no other country has the military capability to achieve but it's doubtful anyone will acknowledge that at the moment, they'll just be thinking it. Double-standards.

daisychain01 · 14/06/2025 15:07

It's their neighbours I feel sorry for, being piggy in the middle as misses fly above their citizens

Let's be really clear, we need to feel empathy for ALL innocent civilians, including Israelis and Iranians. They haven't chosen this and they have bombs and missiles being dropped in their towns and neighbourhoods, they have to live in bomb protection rooms and cellars, fearing for their lives every day. We're very lucky to be in the safety of our homes watching from afar, they don't have the choice of being safe.

beachcitygirl · 14/06/2025 15:08

Because they are shameless warmongers and are getting away with genocide already & many people are able to ignore dead babies all too easily.
never again meant never again for anyone

Themagicfarawaytreeismyfav · 14/06/2025 15:13

FutureFeelsBleak · 14/06/2025 09:05

Because they have gotten away with committing genocide, so have nothing to lose.

So nothing to do with the fact that Hamas is sponsored by iran then?

RamblingEclectic · 14/06/2025 15:41

Same reason they've done it before - The Israeli government fire at Iran knowing that anything Iran fires back will be easy for the Israeli military to stop and can report on any acts done by the Iranian government as to why the Israeli people need leaders like Netanyahu and need continuous high military funding and support.

The Iranian government play into it so they can use the threat of the Israeli government and Zionism to maintain authoritarianism and violence against their own people.

The US and to a lesser extent the UK government will support Israel action not out of any care for Israelis or for Jewish people, but to use similar rhetoric that we too need leaders who are willing to do the same to protect us from others, mostly governments who aren't anywhere close in military strength. The Israeli government spends over 10x on their military as the Iranian government. The Iranian military is a wet paper tiger in comparison to Israel's military strength.

All of the leaders and those who want to maintain power and earn money from these benefit, and they don't really care what happens to anyone else. The leaders of Israel and Iran have more in common with each other than they do the people who they claim to be protecting with these actions.

Iran has been reported to either have nuclear capabilities or been days away from it for decades and that reporting has been repeatedly used by many governments - including Iran - to encourage violence and greater state power.

mids2019 · 22/06/2025 13:09

I think it's important to highlight Iran is committing war crimes in this conflict. There are plenty of people willing to call out alleged war crimes of Israel yet people wish to turn a blind eye to Israel's suffering. Of course people have concerns about our allies when war occurs.

Cecilia4848 · 22/06/2025 13:14

mids2019 · 22/06/2025 13:09

I think it's important to highlight Iran is committing war crimes in this conflict. There are plenty of people willing to call out alleged war crimes of Israel yet people wish to turn a blind eye to Israel's suffering. Of course people have concerns about our allies when war occurs.

I haven’t seen anyone here mention they think the Iranian regime are the good guys, have you? I don’t see anyone turning a blind eye to Iran or Hamas. Plenty of people turning a blind eye to Israel though .

mids2019 · 23/06/2025 03:25

Although I think there are concerns about some of the activity in Gaza the bigger picture is that here in the UK we are facing a greater threat of terrorism and it is such as should be concerned about. The fact there is Iranian 60% enriched uranium floating around Iran is a concern. It is the fact that people wish to comment on the middle east in general yet it seems some think the situation Israel faces in terms of Iranian threat is somehow justified by the conflict in Gaza. Hamas are praising Iran so may be as should all think of it comes to alliances who are the good guys and who are the bad guys when it comes down to the crunch.

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