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What do Americans think of Trump after the events of the last few days?

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leopardprint65 · 03/03/2025 18:29

Just wondering what Americans really think of Tump and Vance and do they agree with the way they treated Zelensky. Trump seems very popular in the US but surely the US people can't believe the way he treated Zelensky was right.

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BitOutOfPractice · 27/01/2026 07:46

Look out @FreelanceJoe your paranoia and conspiracy theories are showing.

ElectoralControversy · 27/01/2026 08:03

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Trump's only putting America's extremely short term interests first - in the long term they're going to end up poorer and more isolated.

Same as Brexit I guess, if you voted for that you literally voted to be poorer, have less influence in the world, and have more non-european immigration. And that was backed by the Russians just like Trump. Sad that patriotism can be exploited like that, but I guess it has been throughout history.

FreelanceJoe · 27/01/2026 09:09

bananafake · 27/01/2026 07:39

Objecting to state sponsored murder is now sneered at for being fashionable seemingly.

I think Nige must have found this thread.

And for the PP yes I’d much rather have a Government that believed in public services, that wanted to encourage important trade links with our neighbours and that didn’t lie through its teeth than have one that wanted to sever links with other nations, has no integrity and is made up of a bunch of grifters, xenophobes and liars.

Jenrick, Braverman et al are not about us and our country they’re all about their own political ambitions. They’ve sold their own party down the river. They would have no compunction about doing the same to us.

And if people can’t see how Nige lied to us about the so-called ‘benefits’ of Brexit and how much damage it’s done to the country there’s no helping them.

State sponsored murder? More like an unfortunate mistake. And the protester turned up with a loaded gun to a demo. Why was this exactly?

Meanwhile this is all over our news, yet the brutal murder by the state of an estimate 20,000 (and rising) innocent Iranians attempting to protest against an oppressive Moslem dictatorship is hardly much mentioned, and when it is mentioned it has been way below this Minnesota story, or whatever Brooklyn Beckham has said or not said on that day.

Always two sides to every story but unless you take the time to seek out alternate sources of news, we only ever hear one side of things here in the UK. As ever with our news, it's the news they don't or seldom mention that gives you a clue to whatever agenda it is they are trying to push. And people like you fall for it hook, line and sinker. every time.

FreelanceJoe · 27/01/2026 09:13

ElectoralControversy · 27/01/2026 08:03

Trump's only putting America's extremely short term interests first - in the long term they're going to end up poorer and more isolated.

Same as Brexit I guess, if you voted for that you literally voted to be poorer, have less influence in the world, and have more non-european immigration. And that was backed by the Russians just like Trump. Sad that patriotism can be exploited like that, but I guess it has been throughout history.

I'm not a great fan of Trump, but you do need to understand a little bit of reality.

For decades the US has protected Europe by massively overpaying on the NATO deterrent, while Europe neglected to play their part by investing proportionally similar levels of funding. Hence Europe has piggy backed off US defence spending for decades. And whilst European economies seem determined to cripple themselves and de-industrialise by throwing the kitchen sink at economically ruinous Net-Zero, Europe is as a result, fast becoming an irrelevance on the global stage. Here in the UK, the Chinese are in the process of taking over our motor industry (among many others), and we can't even defend our countries borders any more, let alone protect places like Greenland, Ukraine, etc.

In the meantime, the Chinese economy has risen to such an extent, such that there are now two major power centres in the world, the US and China. China currently control 85% of the global supply of rare earth metals and other raw materials needed for AI, data centres, electric vehicles, etc, etc. China has eyes on Greenland as a strategic source of resources. For our own economic security (what we have left of it), the US and the West can't let that happen, but Denmark and Europe can't protect Greenland from the Chinese threat given the dire state of our armed forces. Only the US can guarantee the security of Greenland going forward.

Donald Trump seems to be the only politician of note to be telling it as it is, and yes it's a shame he goes about things like a bull in a china shop, but that's his way of negotiating. He gets so much push back and negative press because long-established vested interests (who own and control mush of the media) don't want to change their cosy ways of doing business. But he's mostly right though.

EasternStandard · 27/01/2026 09:45

FreelanceJoe · 27/01/2026 09:13

I'm not a great fan of Trump, but you do need to understand a little bit of reality.

For decades the US has protected Europe by massively overpaying on the NATO deterrent, while Europe neglected to play their part by investing proportionally similar levels of funding. Hence Europe has piggy backed off US defence spending for decades. And whilst European economies seem determined to cripple themselves and de-industrialise by throwing the kitchen sink at economically ruinous Net-Zero, Europe is as a result, fast becoming an irrelevance on the global stage. Here in the UK, the Chinese are in the process of taking over our motor industry (among many others), and we can't even defend our countries borders any more, let alone protect places like Greenland, Ukraine, etc.

In the meantime, the Chinese economy has risen to such an extent, such that there are now two major power centres in the world, the US and China. China currently control 85% of the global supply of rare earth metals and other raw materials needed for AI, data centres, electric vehicles, etc, etc. China has eyes on Greenland as a strategic source of resources. For our own economic security (what we have left of it), the US and the West can't let that happen, but Denmark and Europe can't protect Greenland from the Chinese threat given the dire state of our armed forces. Only the US can guarantee the security of Greenland going forward.

Donald Trump seems to be the only politician of note to be telling it as it is, and yes it's a shame he goes about things like a bull in a china shop, but that's his way of negotiating. He gets so much push back and negative press because long-established vested interests (who own and control mush of the media) don't want to change their cosy ways of doing business. But he's mostly right though.

Posts below aside there does seem to be very little thinking on what the position should be on China.

Hopefully they will be benign because they have an easier path to dominance currently, politically and militarily.

prh47bridge · 27/01/2026 10:42

FreelanceJoe · 27/01/2026 09:09

State sponsored murder? More like an unfortunate mistake. And the protester turned up with a loaded gun to a demo. Why was this exactly?

Meanwhile this is all over our news, yet the brutal murder by the state of an estimate 20,000 (and rising) innocent Iranians attempting to protest against an oppressive Moslem dictatorship is hardly much mentioned, and when it is mentioned it has been way below this Minnesota story, or whatever Brooklyn Beckham has said or not said on that day.

Always two sides to every story but unless you take the time to seek out alternate sources of news, we only ever hear one side of things here in the UK. As ever with our news, it's the news they don't or seldom mention that gives you a clue to whatever agenda it is they are trying to push. And people like you fall for it hook, line and sinker. every time.

You clearly haven't noticed that the Trump administration has walked back from the claims that the person murdered by ICE turned up with a loaded gun to a demo. Even if he did, he had the constitutional right to do so. There is no evidence whatsoever that he was threatening ICE agents with the gun. And the video of the event clearly shows that he was wrestled to the ground by ICE agents then summarily executed. The entire right wing media went all in on the idea that Americans would prefer what the government said over the evidence of their own eyes and accept the idea that the government should be able to murder people on the streets. They failed completely.

The idea in your latest post that Trump is "telling it as it is" is ridiculous. Trump's speeches are riddled with easily provable lies and distortions.

QforCucumber · 27/01/2026 11:45

While I do not like trump at all in the slightest I have to agree with @FreelanceJoe statement here Always two sides to every story but unless you take the time to seek out alternate sources of news, we only ever hear one side of things here in the UK

when Obama was leader he deported more people than the Trump administration and the media loved him for it. they were invited on ride alongs while it was happening. The media have flipped their narrative completely and are now siding with the protestors.

The 5 year old boy our news stated was detained getting off his school bus in actuality the ICE agents were there to detain his dad, who ran away and left the boy at the side of the road - so the agents took him with them, kindly, after his dad had left. would we rather they left him there alone?

sleepwouldbenice · 28/01/2026 00:35

QforCucumber · 27/01/2026 11:45

While I do not like trump at all in the slightest I have to agree with @FreelanceJoe statement here Always two sides to every story but unless you take the time to seek out alternate sources of news, we only ever hear one side of things here in the UK

when Obama was leader he deported more people than the Trump administration and the media loved him for it. they were invited on ride alongs while it was happening. The media have flipped their narrative completely and are now siding with the protestors.

The 5 year old boy our news stated was detained getting off his school bus in actuality the ICE agents were there to detain his dad, who ran away and left the boy at the side of the road - so the agents took him with them, kindly, after his dad had left. would we rather they left him there alone?

Did obamas approach lead to murder?

all I have seen on the media is a frame by frame review eg did he have his gun out, what position was he it, how many shots were fired, when was his gun removed

i just can’t see that as being on the protestors side

was it 8 shots this time?

QforCucumber · 28/01/2026 07:51

@sleepwouldbenice no they didn’t, and the media also didn’t report on the stories the way it does now - pushing people to protest the ICE raids and gather, the media loved them. Told the people how what they were doing was the right thing.

the police who are supposed to be there to keep the protests away from the ICE agents have been told by the mayor and governors to not get involved too, so the protestors have no law enforcement protection.

my point is - the media report with such biased views. Not about the murder of Alex, but about ICE before that, before Alex and Renee, and then act shocked when there’s protests, yet only a short few years ago ICE actions were ‘right’ and they were ‘amazing’ for deporting 3 million people using the same tactics they use today - there were no protests then.

RainbowBagels · 28/01/2026 08:22

BitOutOfPractice · 03/03/2025 18:50

I’m not American but I suspect the ones that liked him like him even more and the ones that loathed him loathe him even more

Hes pissed off his maga fans in the NRA by saying Alex Pretti shouldnt have been carrying a gun!

sleepwouldbenice · 28/01/2026 09:50

QforCucumber · 28/01/2026 07:51

@sleepwouldbenice no they didn’t, and the media also didn’t report on the stories the way it does now - pushing people to protest the ICE raids and gather, the media loved them. Told the people how what they were doing was the right thing.

the police who are supposed to be there to keep the protests away from the ICE agents have been told by the mayor and governors to not get involved too, so the protestors have no law enforcement protection.

my point is - the media report with such biased views. Not about the murder of Alex, but about ICE before that, before Alex and Renee, and then act shocked when there’s protests, yet only a short few years ago ICE actions were ‘right’ and they were ‘amazing’ for deporting 3 million people using the same tactics they use today - there were no protests then.

I understand what you mean but I haven't watch much about it until recently so I can't see that bias as its mostly focused on the shootings themselves

Maddy70 · 28/01/2026 09:57

I have just come back from coffee with 3 American friends. They are aghast at what's happening.

brushcupbook · 28/01/2026 20:52

QforCucumber · 28/01/2026 07:51

@sleepwouldbenice no they didn’t, and the media also didn’t report on the stories the way it does now - pushing people to protest the ICE raids and gather, the media loved them. Told the people how what they were doing was the right thing.

the police who are supposed to be there to keep the protests away from the ICE agents have been told by the mayor and governors to not get involved too, so the protestors have no law enforcement protection.

my point is - the media report with such biased views. Not about the murder of Alex, but about ICE before that, before Alex and Renee, and then act shocked when there’s protests, yet only a short few years ago ICE actions were ‘right’ and they were ‘amazing’ for deporting 3 million people using the same tactics they use today - there were no protests then.

they were not using the same tactics as they are right now.

brushcupbook · 28/01/2026 20:53

Friends in the states are horrified and hate him. Deeply concerned about the current wave of approaching fascism and looking to leave as soon as they can if they can find a way.

EachotherAndAnother · 28/01/2026 21:02

@FreelanceJoe State sponsored murder? More like an unfortunate mistake. And the protester turned up with a loaded gun to a demo. Why was this exactly?

Probably the same reason many Americans turn up with a loaded gun to Walmart, or Starbucks, or for a walk in the park, or church. Because for decades the blithering idiots in the NRA have been peddling the idea that they have the right to bear arms. Turns out that right only extends to shooting schoolkids; who'd have thunk?

brushcupbook · 28/01/2026 21:23

"Denmark and Europe can't protect Greenland from the Chinese threat given the dire state of our armed forces."

I may be hard of memory here, but I thought we were in something called NATO, along with the US. FFS.

MsAmerica · 29/01/2026 03:48

Pussygaloregalapagos · 03/03/2025 22:03

Some of them think he is a great strong leader who doesn't pull his punches, speaks his mind and puts America First.

Some think he is a dangerous liability.

And some in between...... as always mixed views eh!!

Yes, but some views are backed by fact and logic, and some are not.

Mum283838 · 29/01/2026 04:22

I think many people are able to compartmentalise their feelings on Trump - they are so single-mindedly focused on one ill of the country or another, like immigration or the cost of groceries, and then there’s Trump telling them exactly what they want to hear, stoking up their anger, apportioning blame and saying he’s going to fix it. So even if they recognise things that are abhorrent or contradictory about him they are able to completely set aside those feelings and rationalise his words and actions.

I found it inexplicable that millions voted him back in and that he’s retained support. But this explanation made some sense to me.

sashh · 29/01/2026 06:59

QforCucumber · 27/01/2026 11:45

While I do not like trump at all in the slightest I have to agree with @FreelanceJoe statement here Always two sides to every story but unless you take the time to seek out alternate sources of news, we only ever hear one side of things here in the UK

when Obama was leader he deported more people than the Trump administration and the media loved him for it. they were invited on ride alongs while it was happening. The media have flipped their narrative completely and are now siding with the protestors.

The 5 year old boy our news stated was detained getting off his school bus in actuality the ICE agents were there to detain his dad, who ran away and left the boy at the side of the road - so the agents took him with them, kindly, after his dad had left. would we rather they left him there alone?

If ICE were planning to detin a parent who was meeting a school bus they should have anticipated that there would be a child on the bus.

If they had detained the father what would they do with the child.

Surely if you are planning to detain a parent you have a social worker with you or child protective services not doing that is negligence.

MsAmerica · 29/01/2026 21:53

Mum283838 · 29/01/2026 04:22

I think many people are able to compartmentalise their feelings on Trump - they are so single-mindedly focused on one ill of the country or another, like immigration or the cost of groceries, and then there’s Trump telling them exactly what they want to hear, stoking up their anger, apportioning blame and saying he’s going to fix it. So even if they recognise things that are abhorrent or contradictory about him they are able to completely set aside those feelings and rationalise his words and actions.

I found it inexplicable that millions voted him back in and that he’s retained support. But this explanation made some sense to me.

I think any rational person needs to compartmentalize in terms of acknowledging that there will be some aspects to their candidate that are unappealing. I adored Obama, but there were a few things he did that enraged me and I found unforgivable.

With Trumpers, I find that a large part of the problem is that they can be indifferent to, or impervious to, good information. Many seem too lazy to seek it out, and Trump has primed them to distrust good sources.

brushcupbook · 29/01/2026 22:12

MsAmerica · 29/01/2026 21:53

I think any rational person needs to compartmentalize in terms of acknowledging that there will be some aspects to their candidate that are unappealing. I adored Obama, but there were a few things he did that enraged me and I found unforgivable.

With Trumpers, I find that a large part of the problem is that they can be indifferent to, or impervious to, good information. Many seem too lazy to seek it out, and Trump has primed them to distrust good sources.

Unfortunately they're in a real life cult.

MsAmerica · 29/01/2026 22:17

brushcupbook · 29/01/2026 22:12

Unfortunately they're in a real life cult.

Exactly. It's scary.

Wonder what'll happen when he dies, which, according to some people isn't far off. I ran into someone online who think he's going to die shortly of congestive heart failure. Of course, so a certain extent this is absurd, because he clearly has no heart.

flapjackfairy · 29/01/2026 22:19

QforCucumber · 27/01/2026 11:45

While I do not like trump at all in the slightest I have to agree with @FreelanceJoe statement here Always two sides to every story but unless you take the time to seek out alternate sources of news, we only ever hear one side of things here in the UK

when Obama was leader he deported more people than the Trump administration and the media loved him for it. they were invited on ride alongs while it was happening. The media have flipped their narrative completely and are now siding with the protestors.

The 5 year old boy our news stated was detained getting off his school bus in actuality the ICE agents were there to detain his dad, who ran away and left the boy at the side of the road - so the agents took him with them, kindly, after his dad had left. would we rather they left him there alone?

yeah because there was only 2 possible options under those circumstances. Leave him alone at the side of the road or lock him up.in a detention centre and blame his father. No one could be expected to think.of a better and more humane solution could they ?

brushcupbook · 29/01/2026 22:21

MsAmerica · 29/01/2026 22:17

Exactly. It's scary.

Wonder what'll happen when he dies, which, according to some people isn't far off. I ran into someone online who think he's going to die shortly of congestive heart failure. Of course, so a certain extent this is absurd, because he clearly has no heart.

😂I'd agree with that, def no heart!

I don't think it's that far off that he's either pushed out and replaced by Vance, or perhaps a health crisis or other such issue leads to his demise.

I think Vance is just as terrifying TBH.

The whole of the US is just nuts right now. It's deeply concerning.

MsAmerica · 30/01/2026 22:19

brushcupbook · 29/01/2026 22:21

😂I'd agree with that, def no heart!

I don't think it's that far off that he's either pushed out and replaced by Vance, or perhaps a health crisis or other such issue leads to his demise.

I think Vance is just as terrifying TBH.

The whole of the US is just nuts right now. It's deeply concerning.

I agree that Vance is as awful - maybe worse, since he's more articulate.

But I suspect he won't have the charisma to hold Trumpers together.

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