No MMR? Then you won’t start school

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here

also here

However, doctors? leaders warned that the idea was ?morally dubious?.

Quite.

Hopefully someone with some common sense will step in, and this proposal will be consigned to the huge pile of other stupid proposals.

No way! Then all my kids will stay at home!!!

Can someone explain to me the risks of MMR as I have heard that they are really bad but never heard what they actually are. (my dd isn't due them for 8 months but nice to be aware before hand)

I also heard that they are considering withdrawing child benefit from those who don't immunise. I immediately thought of MN

as my DS regressed violenetly and completely after his MMR at 18 months - it would take much stronger threats than that to persuade me to give him the booster or to vaccinate DD at all.
Bullying tossers

Human rights?
Rights of parents to make informed decisions?
Choice?

This proposal is deeply suspect, IMO.

I imagine Mary Cleagh won't be 'in charge' of the public health bit of the Labour manifesto for very long, tbh, the daft mare. Honestly, is she a double agent, or something? And WTF does she know about public health, anyway, as an unpaid bag carrier to the culture secretary?

Withdrawal of child benefit! What a joke!

Lets all make health decisions for our LOs based upon £10.80 a week.. and how much will that cost the govt to implement?

Excuse the sarcasm, am having a bad day after night after night of v little sleep whilst my DH has been in Spain playing golf since Thurs.

luckysalem
the MMR is safe for most kids. For some ( like my son) it has been linked to stomach and bowel difficulties and ultimately to ASD. My son was developing totally normally but had his MMR at 18 months and almost imediately lost all language, toilet function, eye contact, emergent social skill and developed massive violent tantrums and compulsive bahaviours and bowel issues.
But I have history of auto immune probelms and DS was recovering from chicken pox a few months before when he had the jab.
It is a rare and contravertial reaction but one that does explain what happened to my son.

pagwatch - thanks so if she's healthy then I don't really need to worry about her having it then?

Kerry
in spite of many indications to the contrary we are not actually compelled to do everything a la USA.

Whilst we love your films, obesity, starbucks etc we are holding out over a few things - legal guns for example

Don't they realise if they try to get this through, this could have the opposite effect and make many parents suspicious thereby opting not to have certain jabs?

Well, that's just a silly made-up story out of an idea someone had for a millisecond. It won't happen really, they will just 'suggest' that kids have had the MMR and maybe ask it on forms (in fact, they prob do that already).

As pointed out, kids DO start school (in USA) without vaccinations. Think of all the children who come into the country from elsewhere...

lucky
I wouldn't advise anyone one way or the other. It is a parents choice.
I never believed my son was still poorly as I had no idea that the cp virus was still floating around him. And my autoimmune probs had only been a big dollop of PND that I had believed was over with.
Tis one of those decisions that you need to inform yourself and make.
Not being unhelpful. Just anyone who would tell you what to do is a) an idiot and b) very unlikely to come and help you out with the consequences of your decsion either way, as of course to choose to avoid the vaccine also has risks.
Your child, your choice and responsibilty I'm afraid.

If there is any left in the upper echelons of the party with any sense, they'll tell her not to be so bloody daft. Yeah, right, GB has already pissed off 4/5ths of the electorate, let's do something that will make millions of parents foam at the mouth..

"The ideas have yet to be discussed with the Prime Minister", the Telegraph article says. I bet he's going to be really thrilled...

And I'm surprised at Sandy Macara apparently suggesting child benefit should be cut. He's not normally so stupid. Apart from anything else, child benefit is a universal benefit, it's not dependent on performing task X or ticking box Y.

There's absolutely nothing on her website or wiki entry to suggest she's ever displayed the slightest interest in health or knows the first thing about it, btw.

I think Labour just lost the next election unless they retract that quickly.
If I were the Tory spokemen I'd be drafting a response as fast as I could type

Something like "Labour claims to be the Party of choice, but under us parents will be able to make their own decisions once more"

The thing with the MMR is not that a lot of parents can't be bothered to have them and this will spur them on to get them done but it is a decision they have made and have chosen not to immunise.
The government need to give those parents the option for single jabs (and pay if they are in a position to do so) and also allow non-immunisation for those at risk.

exactly, ellingwoman