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Jailing Syrian sex offender asylum seeker with PTSD could breach human rights

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JessieZoo · 21/02/2025 07:14

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/02/19/jailing-sex-offender-asylum-seeker-breach-human-rights/

Basically their argument is sending him to prison would trigger PTSD from his experiences in Syria. Now in my view its dangerous because it implies if you have a mental health condition you are free too commit dangerous acts and use it as an excuse not to go prison right or wrong ?.

The poor girls human rights should be considered before this scumbag !

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HermioneWeasley · 21/02/2025 07:29

I can’t read the article but I am so sick of this shit. To be fair I don’t think he should be jailed at the Uk taxpayer expense, he should just be deported back to Syria. We have an international responsibility to asylum seekers but also a responsibility to our own citizens. If you commit crimes against our citizens (I’m not talking about parking tickets) then you’ve abused the hospitality of this country and you’re not welcome any more. It is very easy not to sexually assault anyone.

prh47bridge · 22/02/2025 08:03

His lawyer is entitled to make the argument. That doesn't mean the courts will agree. And I wouldn't rely on press reporting on this kind of thing. It often gives a distorted picture. There was a case a few years ago where it was reported that an illegal immigrant could not be deported because of his pet cat. The reality is that the Home Office had conceded that they had failed to apply their own policy for dealing with unmarried partners of people settled in the UK. The cat had nothing to do with it.

username299 · 22/02/2025 09:05

It's the Torygraph and they're a mouthpiece for Tories. They want to take the UK out of the ECHR.

Where exactly will he be deported because Syria is a mess? His lawyer has argued that imprisoning him may breach his rights but it's up to the judge to decide on an appropriate punishment.

1457bloom · 22/02/2025 14:28

Have we become so woke we won't even put a sex offender in prison, no wonder this country is doomed.

prh47bridge · 22/02/2025 15:00

1457bloom · 22/02/2025 14:28

Have we become so woke we won't even put a sex offender in prison, no wonder this country is doomed.

His barrister is doing what he is paid to do and arguing for the best outcome for his client. The judge has not yet decided, so you are jumping the gun.

1457bloom · 22/02/2025 18:18

Guess who is paying for his barrister? Us....

username299 · 22/02/2025 18:23

1457bloom · 22/02/2025 18:18

Guess who is paying for his barrister? Us....

I know right. He shouldn't have a right to legal representation. We should have kangaroo courts for forrins.

GriefSubmittedHighways · 22/02/2025 18:25

No legal case can succeed unless the defendant has a lawyer making a conscientious case for their client's interests. Everyone is entitled to an effective defence, regardless of the crimes they may have committed and regardless of where they have come from.
Even if you are only interested in prosecution, an effective defence is essential. If an effective defence was missing, then any conviction or sentencing would be on shaky grounds and could be challenged.

1457bloom · 22/02/2025 18:29

I wonder if he is staying in a nice hotel during this court case.

1457bloom · 22/02/2025 18:31

He must think we are a bunch of mugs!

pippapumpkin · 22/02/2025 18:47

UK is doomed.

Let’s cut his dick off then, see if his PTSD prefers that.

Magpie69 · 22/02/2025 18:51

prh47bridge · 22/02/2025 15:00

His barrister is doing what he is paid to do and arguing for the best outcome for his client. The judge has not yet decided, so you are jumping the gun.

Well sex offences should be jail and or deportation, if found guilty. No exceptions and no right of appeal to that sentence

Wildflowers99 · 22/02/2025 18:52

Magpie69 · 22/02/2025 18:51

Well sex offences should be jail and or deportation, if found guilty. No exceptions and no right of appeal to that sentence

Agree completely.

1457bloom · 22/02/2025 19:05

If he gets away with this, every asylum seeker will say the same.

Wildflowers99 · 22/02/2025 19:13

1457bloom · 22/02/2025 19:05

If he gets away with this, every asylum seeker will say the same.

If he gets away with it we can add another few % to the popularity of Reform. For fucks sake, when will they learn?

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 22/02/2025 19:33

For fuck sake, absolutely ridiculous. He's guilty, fet him in the slammer or a psychiatric hospital. Better still, deport him back to Syria.
Sick to death of this absolute nonsense.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 22/02/2025 19:34

1457bloom · 22/02/2025 19:05

If he gets away with this, every asylum seeker will say the same.

Won't just be asylum seekers!

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 22/02/2025 19:35

pippapumpkin · 22/02/2025 18:47

UK is doomed.

Let’s cut his dick off then, see if his PTSD prefers that.

True

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 22/02/2025 19:35

He'll be transgender extra and hope to go to a women's prison.

CrazyOldMe · 22/02/2025 19:36

This is exactly why Reform are are popular as they are. We need to get a grip on these cases before the next election.

caringcarer · 22/02/2025 19:37

The other day someone couldn't be deported because his ds would only eat a brand of chicken nuggets you could not get in his own country. It is madness.

Pifo · 22/02/2025 19:44

Vote for Reform.

JoyousEagle · 22/02/2025 19:48

Pifo · 22/02/2025 19:44

Vote for Reform.

Why, are they planning on stopping defence lawyers making arguments?

Or are they planning on appealing the judgements in things like the chicken nugget example given above? Because if that's what you're after, Yvette Cooper did that already in August for that case, and a judge agreed with her.

prh47bridge · 22/02/2025 19:50

caringcarer · 22/02/2025 19:37

The other day someone couldn't be deported because his ds would only eat a brand of chicken nuggets you could not get in his own country. It is madness.

The reasons for blocking deportation were more complex than that. Also, the upper tribunal has already overruled this decision and sent the case back to be reviewed.

prh47bridge · 22/02/2025 19:52

Magpie69 · 22/02/2025 18:51

Well sex offences should be jail and or deportation, if found guilty. No exceptions and no right of appeal to that sentence

You'd better raise that with the Sentencing Council. Whether an offence of sexual assault (which is what we are talking about here) carries a jail sentence depends on the seriousness of the offence. Having said that, the description I've seen of this offence means that it should carry a jail sentence under the current sentencing guidelines.