Scarlett Vickers - Were we actually meant to believe this was an accident

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How can anyone believe this was an accident and surely the mother could not have been stood in the kitchen with her back turned and not heard her daughter get stabbed. Surely she should have been tried too?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly9zx02rejo

I don’t think that there’s a way to prove she was lying and get a conviction. Whether I think she’s in any way believable is a separate issue.

I dont understand it either

Parents arguing and she got in the middle maybe? I just don’t believe his version of events but also find it hard to believe the Mum would lie for him if it was anything else…

That poor girl. It is heartbreaking and something so sinister about this man.

Yes maybe the knife wasn’t meant for her. Why would the Mother not tell the truth though?

I can’t think of any circumstances where I wouldn’t be completely honest no matter who got in trouble if my child had died!

No, his explanation was completely absurd. The force need to push an ordinary kitchen knife through several layers of clothing and a teenager's chest wall is significant.

I don't understand how a mum could lie to protect someone who murdered her dd.

The more stories I hear, the more bewildered I feel. I would literally rip the arms off ANY man who tried to hurt my child. I wouldn't care who it was.

I was confused by it all seeming to happen late at night and them claiming they were cooking dinner. At gone 11. None of it stood up. Poor lovely girl.

I confess I'm the same. I'm a calm and peaceful person but if anyone tried to hurt my child I would injure or kill them almost as a reflex. I don't understand anything else really.

I wondered about domestic abuse between the parents , but agree surely then would be the time to speak up as the mother

I don’t know this case at all. What on earth would lead a father to do that? Was there a timeline of abuse that lead up to it?

Police saying we may never know the reason (BBC). You'd think they would mention DA if there was a history. It is a very weird case.

I wondered if she'd said something (like I'm not your child, as an example). and that sparked it. Even so, such a violent reaction - using a knife which takes real force, and no excuse whatsoever even if a teen can be very provoking (I was, and said to mum go on slap me then - which she did on my face to my and her surprise). And why is the mum covering for him? Did she have something she didn't want to come out? Like other posters I am sure I'd take a frying pan to a man who went for my child, family member or not. And hand them in.

Poor kid. She was only just getting started with life. Whatever the reason he killed her, Scarlett certainly didn't deserve to have her life ended.

He killed her in cold blood.
Thankfully the court has agreed.
The mum on the other hand is a spineless wet wipe.

Maybe she didn't want to be locally known as "the woman who's husband killed her daughter in a rage" so went along with some unbelievable lie instead.

The mention by the Father of "mucking about" and "playfighting" with his fourteen year old Daughter left me feeling very uneasy...

"You'd think they would mention DA if there was a history." well they'd only know if it was reported. @Alltheyearround

It's such an awful case, I'm glad he's was convicted of murder rather than manslaughter because there are so many things not quite right in this case. Very sad.

I was actually expecting something to come out following the jury decision like certain things hadn't been divulged but nothing. I don’t think we will ever know the sad truth behind his evil actions. I pray that she had a happy life up to this point.

Some mothers do cover for their partners when they kill their child. This is an example of such a case:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-67872569

A witness for the defence said that there was no prior police or social service involvement with the family, but then again, that doesn't meant much, does it? Lots of abuse goes on in families without anyone outside being aware of it.
The guy's video at the police station is just awful. He doesn't even seem distressed. He's just playing at being confused.

Fair point, though am sure they'd interview neighbours etc. They might have an inkling.

Perhaps it’ll be only now that the mum feels able to speak up, since he’s going to be locked away. You just don’t know what goes on behind closed doors. Horrible case though.

Parents are drunks & pot addicts & for comfort they have each other.

Tee hee.

Neither of them will tell. Poor little girl.

I felt similarly. Poor child.

Poor Bee. That is utterly, utterly chilling. Both him and the mother. Once again, a child vulnerable to a man not her own father (I know not all, but there is a correlation).

Sadly I do know sometimes parents who chose not to believe their child. My own mum is one of them. Luckily I am still here to tell the tale. It compounds the abuse, the trauma of your experience being denied by someone you trust to protect you.

He's one of those men who insists on the dc having his name when he never marries the mum even after 27 years.

I say domestic abuse and the wrong woman caught the blade.

Poor Scarlet trying to protect her mother.