Lucy Letby's dad threatened hospital boss

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I thought this was quite interesting. It was discussed here at the time of the trial that it was unusual that Letby's parents would go with her to work when they were first reviewing her potential involvement in the babies deaths.

This news report describes how Letby's dad threatened to "put a gun to the head" of the hospital boss during this meeting. This is quite an extreme response, even if he was trying to defend his daughter.

https://apple.news/AmXQVaiKyQ9at-So9IRFqmQ

I thought it was interesting - gives us an insight into how Lucy's early years and upbringing may have affected her

I thought we knew this didnt we?

I knew that and I haven't followed the case in great detail so it must have been reported previously.

I agree that it's strange for the parents to have been so involved

Gun to the head? Why didn't he call the police? Doesn't make sense ....

I’ve never heard that and I thought I had followed things v closely!

Ive always thought the parents hold a huge influence over why she did what she did

I actually didn't know the gun to the head bit

They were so over involved in their grown up daughters life / work that now the NHS bosses can probably use that to get away with being completely incompetent by allowing back to work on the wards and killing more babies

They all have blood on their hands for allowing it to carry on and not believing the the consultants from the start and threatening the consultants

All to keep their bloody pensions

Why are her parents so involved, are they just over-involved parents, or is the suggestion she needed more parental involvement than most adults of her age?

Not an actual gun

FFS

A literal gun of threats

So basically because of Mr Letby and his threats his daughter went in to kill and attempt to kill more babies

If Lucy letby had just walked away from the job and not got her idiotic father involved she would probably not be in prison now

As it is she went back on the ward and just couldn't help but kill more innocent babies

Complete psychopath

I remembered being very surprised that she took her parents to a meeting at the hospital. Not a union representative or a colleague but her parents. It's very unusual.

Overbearing parents.

She wrote to a former classmate who’d emigrated to NZ to practise nursing that she found them “suffocating”. Apparently they kicked up a fuss and made her feel guilty when she decided to relocate from her home town to Chester although they did help her to buy her house. She felt disinclined to go to NZ therefore, because of the way they’d over-react.

It’s not their fault that she caused profound harm to small babies - of course it’s not! - but they do sound odd and needy.

The whole thing is awful. Nobody in authority comes out of this well.

I wasn't at all impressed with the ceo this morning, with his excuses and inability to recognise any of his own mistakes. Also , the director of nursing yesterday who had such a chip on her shoulder about doctors and an inability to "recall" things that were inconvenient to remember. Crappy systems, badly executed.

Then the controlling parents, who no doubt have had a negative effect on their daughter's behaviour and sense of agency.

What's weird is that it's being reported as if it were a literal threat of violence. Holding a gun to someone's head is an expression meaning forcing someone to do something. I think the boss on the receiving end was well aware of this and responded accordingly. (Ie, he sympathised with the situation LL was in. He did not act in fear of his life)

I suspect the father was exhausted having seen his daughter dragged over the coals for years for what he perceived as innuendo and rumour. He wanted to force the boss into an apology and I suppose an assurance that it would finally end.

Unless I've missed something, the media are disingenuous reporting this as if it were a literal threat of violence. Are journalists really unaware of common parlance? If so, they shouldn't be writing for a living. Seeing everything, no matter how serious, turned into clickbait is sickening.

Yikes!! I stopped following after her trail ended - seems I have some catching up to do.

Having worked at a law firm where we had a client who got his parents involved in a civil law case it’s never the best thing to do as a parent and LL’s parents do sound over invested.

Probably both. It’s bonkers behaviour either way.

In 33 years of working clinically, I have never heard of a healthcare professional bring their parent/s to any sort of formal meeting (grievance, HR, disciplinary etc). Another colleague or a union rep is the norm. That is really odd behaviour.

when I read about this involvement from the Dad I thought this was pretty unusual behaviour for parents of a grown woman. It feels odly involved and suggests perhaps her upbringing was not as bog standard as seemed to be suggested, was her dad highly controlling? Or perhaps Letby is a master manipulator, always getting others to feel sorry for her and step in to help?. Either way I find it interesting.

Perhaps they revolved around her too much. With the newspaper announcements and two family holidays a year. Maybe they made her feel more important and accomplished than average and then when she was just doing her job in the real world nobody was giving her that attention until she was involved in an event at work that made her the centre of some attention.

When toxic, factional and hierarchical working relationships exist, as they do in clinical settings, this is the mess you and up with. Doctors v Nurses v Managers v Patients. The status quo too often stinks.

Why would a grown up adult bring parents into a work meeting, even if it is of that kind ? Wonder why her father needed to be involved like that?
The mention of free masonry is also interesting and could be shocking.

It is reported in some articles that some of the hospital bosses and also a judge are free masons. Is Lucy's father member of that organisation too?

Things like rituals and sacrifices are dismissed as conspiracies, but who knows?

Yes the Freemasons were involved, 🤦‍♀️ ffs

I remembered discussions on here at the time as to whether you would go to court with your child if they were accused of something like that. What really shocked me was how surprised they were at the verdict. I don't know how anyone could've sat through those cases and thought she was innocent. Clearly they did.

I can imagine parents thinking "I wish I could go with you" but actually going is a different thing altogether.