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Man found dead. 2 men arrested

86 replies

NotABanana · 23/04/2008 18:41

So so sad.

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ChocolateRockingHorse · 24/04/2008 17:16

The man of the two people arrested is the lady's partner, James's step dad.

wannaBe · 24/04/2008 17:18

what about the other one - they said it was a youth. but.. the mum also had a 17 yo son didn't she?

wannaBe · 24/04/2008 17:24

have just read that link. Am slightly uncomfortable with the notion that sky are already suggesting that Heather killed her son. It is, after all, her partner who has been arrested?

ChocolateRockingHorse · 24/04/2008 17:25

That's an amazing article Squiffy. It makes me feel so grateful that my son, who may never walk unaided, or be anything but doubly incontinent or be able to care for his own needs in any way shape or form, has a quality of life and without doubt, can feel happiness.

I so know what that journalist means about "five years without sleeping through the night". After 6 years of this, social services were still saying our DS was "too young" to spend a night in overnight respite care. In other words, six years without sleep was not enough for us to have been through. We had to suffer another year and a half before we got this service. And then we have to fight tooth and nail, with no energy, to get that. And then it was only 1 night every six weeks. And that got cancelled when the respite carer couldn't cope with him being awake most of the night.

It is so so easy to see how people reach breaking point. And then break.

(If that is what happened in this case.)

yurt1 · 24/04/2008 17:27

Ah thank goodness for the last few paragraphs. That was the bit that Julia Hollander has never experienced/understood

ChocolateRockingHorse · 24/04/2008 17:27

I don't think she's doing that Wannabe. She is stating the plight of carers. It is of course a possibilty that this is what James's mother did; we all know that. We have no way of knowing whether it is the case or not though.

ChocolateRockingHorse · 24/04/2008 17:28

(Yes Yurt, she sprang to mind when I read it too)

oiFoiF · 25/04/2008 07:47

its all bloody awful isnt it I am so pleased though that carers organisations etc have spoken out about carers though without judging/making comment on what may or may not have happened. The poor mum was so so young aswell, even when she had James. Just think what that poor family have been through and are going through now. It doesnt bear thinking about

oiFoiF · 25/04/2008 12:00

oh the tabloids are being sympathetic aswell it has made me feel quite sick tbh. The amount of people who should have been involved in his care makes you wonder how his body was allegedly about their property for without anyone becoming suspicious. It sounds like they had loads of help

NotABanana · 25/04/2008 12:27

For the first time I have heard it announced on the radio news that her partner is the man being questioned.

I feel so sorry for the 6 year old. Lost his mum and his brother and now quite possibly going to loose his dad too.

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ChocolateRockingHorse · 25/04/2008 13:20

Has it actually been confirmed that James's body was found in a suit case having been there for "up to 3 months!? Because all I have seen in a picture on the tv of the front of a tabloid so have no idea if that's right or not.

Some of the neighbours have been saying they saw him going off in his SN school/college bus "2 weeks ago" I think..

NotABanana · 25/04/2008 13:24

It has been confirmed the body is that of James but the post morten hasn't shown when or how he died. More tests being done.

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oiFoiF · 25/04/2008 13:27

CRH the neighbours said on the news he hadnt been seen going onto the van 'for some time'. Not sure what that would mean tbh. But fgs you and me know how many epople are supposedly involved in our childrens care, why was no-one involved with this family? even if just so the mum could talk to someone or get some support is this really how bad adult services are? I cant stop thinking about it. I saw the front of the sun newspaper and the mirror aswell in tesco, AWFUL and sensationalist

NotABanana · 25/04/2008 13:39

Funny how the neighbours are all saying now they hadn't seen him for a while.

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WendyWeber · 25/04/2008 15:07

Yes, but when something stops happening you don't realise or notice it straight away, do you? Like how hard it is to prove a negative.

Even if you do, you assume there's a reasonable explanation unless told otherwise.

I don't know if it would have made any difference if anybody had spoken out

wannaBe · 25/04/2008 16:05

The tabloids don?t make for pleasant reading at all. It seems to almost be street gossip that James was found in a suitcase although the police have refused to comment. There?s also been a lot of insinuation about the youth that has been arrested with neighbours being quoted as saying things like ?he used to play football outside while james watched? etc, so giving quite a clear indication as to who he is. .

I do think it?s incredibly sad that no-one seemed to query where James was, ie the transport that collected him every day etc, but on reflection I wonder, do all these people talk to each other? If the daycare centre were told by the family that James was ill so wouldn?t be coming in for a while, how likely is it they would be in contact with anyone else involved in James?s care to confirm that? And often people with such severe disabilities also have low imunity so illness might not be that uncommon?

Piffle · 25/04/2008 16:10

I think the tabloid is disgusting for that suitcase front page story. It turned my stomach. Have they no respect for the bloody kids - poor poor babes. Mum dead, brother dead and a father in custody. I don't care what has happened. That headline is just vile.

wannaBe · 25/04/2008 16:15

it's just the tabloids all over though isn't it. There's not been any judging going on, but there's definitely a sensationalist undertone to it all ]angry]. I can't believe people actually pay money to read it.

TeeJaye · 25/04/2008 16:41

James Hughes' stepdad released without charge

TeeJaye · 25/04/2008 16:48

Also:

Two people arrested in connection with the murder of a disabled man have been released without charge.

wannaBe · 25/04/2008 16:52

I guess no-one might ever know what really happened.

NotABanana · 25/04/2008 17:28

I am probably completely way off but my first thought was they have released them to see what they do.

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TeeJaye · 25/04/2008 18:16

Father in tribute to James Aaaaaaaaaw.

TeeJaye · 25/04/2008 18:44

From the BBC - Disabled man found in a suitcase

Monkeytrousers · 25/04/2008 20:38

easter holidays have just finished in some places for two weeks