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MoonAndStarsAndSky · 31/07/2024 16:03

Those of you downplaying this will regret it when all the details come out. Some of the children were SEVEN. Let that sink in. If someone sent something like that to you wouldn't you feel physically sick and report them to the police? What the F is wrong with you all.

Remember the vulnerable young person who was according to his mother addicted to crack cocaine was being paid by Edwards to send sexually explicit images to find a drug addiction. This is not an innocent man we are talking about here he is a dangerous predator.

RafaistheKingofClay · 31/07/2024 16:04

creamofroses · 31/07/2024 14:04

You really are keen to minimise the viewing of child sexual abuse.

I think it’s a valid point though. The legal meaning and the common use of the term ‘making’ are so far apart that I’d imagine it’s likely that an awful lot of men have received unsolicited images and aren’t aware that they are guilty of making them. Inaccuracy allows them to mentally create a gap between HE’s behaviour and theirs. I don’t really see how that encourages reporting or helps child victims.

DaemonMoon · 31/07/2024 16:06

PToosher · 31/07/2024 15:46

To those suggesting that if you were to be sent an indecent image of a child, you should immediately report it to the Police, what this course of action does is put you at the mercy of the Police. You have committed a crime just by having 'made' the image and are effectively reporting yourself for it.

So, you would be relying on the good graces of the Police not to prosecute you. But regardless of that, all the computers/phones etc in your house would be seized for investigation. And your neighbours would see what was going on.

Personally, I'd delete it, scrub my hard drive and say no more about it.

And what of the victims?

Charlize43 · 31/07/2024 16:13

summerdazey · 31/07/2024 12:28

How dare he walk with his head held high like that

Yes, he doesn't look very humbled or remorseful about the whole situation but looks arrogant as though the whole thing is a massive inconvenience.

Rich, famous people often think they are above the law.

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 31/07/2024 16:21

More realistically he should have gone to a lawyer and taken advice. Obviously, he couldn’t send the pictures to a lawyer for advice…

I’m sure there was a way out of this, but doing nothing was not it.

I still think it’s really important to be clear about THIS crime. What other crimes he may have committed we don’t yet know.

This crime is bad enough, and shouldn’t be minimised by people trying to exaggerate what he did (on this occasion).

NowImNotDoingIt · 31/07/2024 16:37

Bignanna · 31/07/2024 15:50

There should be a way of exonerating the unfortunate recipient. Knowing they are innocent but might be charged would put many off. We need clarification about what to do should we are put in this position!

www.ceopeducation.co.uk/professionals/our-views/what-to-do-if-you-come-across-child-sexual-abuse-material/

This might help

YellowAsteroid · 31/07/2024 16:44

why am I not surprised. These men - they just can’t help themselves can they.

DidILetHerDown · 31/07/2024 17:08

Reporting doesn't just mean devices being seized, neighbours curtains twitching, it means you're wife knows about your sleazy WhatsApp porn habit. It probably means your kids knowing. For someone high profile, it may mean the media finding out.

He should have blocked and not engaged in any further 'conversation' with the sender, but expecting someone to report it, knowing it would end their own marriage, career and risk prosecution, is something that many people wouldn't be willing to do. I understand that reluctance.

There should be a way of reporting these images being sent unsolicited, which doesnt require the recipient to wreck their own life in the process.

teddyandgypsy · 31/07/2024 17:12

SO agree with you. There are too many people on here making excuses for him. The man is a paedophile, a vile predator. He is also a coward and a hypocrite, a bit like his employer. Just emerged that the BBC knew he had been charged in November 2023, yet they continued paying him for a further six months, including giving him a pay rise. Utterly, utterly incredible.

pocketaces · 31/07/2024 17:14

Bignanna · 31/07/2024 15:50

There should be a way of exonerating the unfortunate recipient. Knowing they are innocent but might be charged would put many off. We need clarification about what to do should we are put in this position!

Yes. This highlights a serious problem and should not be downplayed. The link that was shared in response does not help.

www.ceopeducation.co.uk/professionals/our-views/what-to-do-if-you-come-across-child-sexual-abuse-material

Say someone in your whatsapp groip shares such an image. All of you are now guilty of making an indecent image. It is ridiculous. The link says report it anonymously to Internet watch. But the image is still on your phone and hence you are guilty. What if someone in your group reports it. With the grace of the police they may be let off but the rest of you can be charged. Ridiculous. Obviously if you save it or forward it you are guilty but anyone deleting it in disgust the law makes no distinction. Could happen to anyone.

teddyandgypsy · 31/07/2024 17:16

You are either his doting Mam or are utterly deluded. He did not get sent these images by mistake - over a period of more than a year. He did not 'mistakenly' send £35,000 to a young person in return for poses, despite being begged by the parents to leave him alone. He did not join WhatsApp Group by mistake. The other Welsh paedophiles did not find his number by mistake. He is a paedophile, a predator, a sexual pervert.

teddyandgypsy · 31/07/2024 17:17

If you are going to quote, you should do so accurately. His story is that he asked his co-predator not to send him illegal images. He was perfectly happy to have child porn.

teddyandgypsy · 31/07/2024 17:20

Well said. There are some strange people on this thread. Any minute now they'll be claiming it was all a mistake as Bobby Ewing walks out of the shower

Lampslights · 31/07/2024 17:33

MynameisML · 31/07/2024 15:47

We don’t know if they discussed them or not. When asked, he said “don’t send me illegal images”. For sure he was not protesting but he did say not to do it.

Yes we do. It’s all over the media, reports from the court. There was sexual chat on the images. The man is a paedophile. People need to stop trying to pretend otherwise.

Lampslights · 31/07/2024 17:34

teddyandgypsy · 31/07/2024 17:20

Well said. There are some strange people on this thread. Any minute now they'll be claiming it was all a mistake as Bobby Ewing walks out of the shower

This I can’t believe what I’m reading. The man is a peadophile. He has thankfully been caught and will go to jail.

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 31/07/2024 17:36

Really good article here about these charges and exactly how it works. It’s important for people to understand how easily they can get caught up.

Not Hugh- he did other stuff- but people have been prosecuted and lost their jobs despite having no intention or interest in illegal images.

https://apple.news/A01ZKhm_kTg6trWH2DVB1LA

What did Huw Edwards do? Indecent image charges explained — The Times and The Sunday Times

References by police and the courts to “making” indecent images of children can confuse the public. The legal definition covers either the physical or digital possession of images but most often refers to images that are on an electronic device, such a...

https://apple.news/A01ZKhm_kTg6trWH2DVB1LA

MoonAndStarsAndSky · 31/07/2024 17:37

I really don't understand all these women on here referring to him as an "unfortunate recipient". If it was one image in a group or conversation which he immediately left that's something different to what he did.

He groomed a vulnerable young drug addict to send him explicit photos, this person's parents were begging him to stop. He's in his sixties. He had received multiple category A images.

Those of you apologising and minimising on here would you feel the same if it was your child in the images? Would you think of him as an innocent man who randomly received things he had no interest in whatsoever? Your sheer wilfulness to ignore the obvious is gross.

BloodyHellKenAgain · 31/07/2024 17:38

MoonAndStarsAndSky · 31/07/2024 16:03

Those of you downplaying this will regret it when all the details come out. Some of the children were SEVEN. Let that sink in. If someone sent something like that to you wouldn't you feel physically sick and report them to the police? What the F is wrong with you all.

Remember the vulnerable young person who was according to his mother addicted to crack cocaine was being paid by Edwards to send sexually explicit images to find a drug addiction. This is not an innocent man we are talking about here he is a dangerous predator.

I agree. Earlier this afternoon I was listening to R4 discuss this case. I think it was the media show and Krishnan Guru-murthy was saying he was shocked by it and felt sorry that HE had done this. He also said that some people with an agenda would use the HEs case to besmirch the BBC
Not one person on the programme mentioned the poor sexually abused children which made me feel very, very angry.

Lampslights · 31/07/2024 17:39

MoonAndStarsAndSky · 31/07/2024 17:37

I really don't understand all these women on here referring to him as an "unfortunate recipient". If it was one image in a group or conversation which he immediately left that's something different to what he did.

He groomed a vulnerable young drug addict to send him explicit photos, this person's parents were begging him to stop. He's in his sixties. He had received multiple category A images.

Those of you apologising and minimising on here would you feel the same if it was your child in the images? Would you think of him as an innocent man who randomly received things he had no interest in whatsoever? Your sheer wilfulness to ignore the obvious is gross.

People falling over themselves to excuse a paedophile;

MoonAndStarsAndSky · 31/07/2024 17:40

@Lampslights they're desperate to excuse it I haven't read anything like it.

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 31/07/2024 17:41

MoonAndStarsAndSky · 31/07/2024 17:37

I really don't understand all these women on here referring to him as an "unfortunate recipient". If it was one image in a group or conversation which he immediately left that's something different to what he did.

He groomed a vulnerable young drug addict to send him explicit photos, this person's parents were begging him to stop. He's in his sixties. He had received multiple category A images.

Those of you apologising and minimising on here would you feel the same if it was your child in the images? Would you think of him as an innocent man who randomly received things he had no interest in whatsoever? Your sheer wilfulness to ignore the obvious is gross.

Is anyone referring to him as an unfortunate recipient? I thought the conversation had just moved on to a more general one around the full scope of the law, which it seems would include "unfortunate recipients". I don't think the vast majority of people on the thread (certainly not "all these women") are including Edwards in that description

teddyandgypsy · 31/07/2024 17:42

Oh you are right on the money. I always find its SO easy to mistakenly send £35,000 to a young man in exchange for sexual posing. Just a slip of the cheque book.

God give me strength. Some of you would excuse Hitler.

MoonAndStarsAndSky · 31/07/2024 17:42

@BloodyHellKenAgain the media seem to be clubbing together in a damage limitation way- they're avoiding the victims and the gory details and making it about defending the BBC. Well that's a whole different story but people will rightly use this as a reason to lose faith in the BBC who have paid Edwards since knowing he was charged. Paid him with public money.

teddyandgypsy · 31/07/2024 17:43

You are right. They cant all be his MAM Its all a bit like 'that nice Dr Shipman.' Such a lovely man, our Huw

Justrolledmyeyesoutloud · 31/07/2024 17:43

Cellotapedispenser · 31/07/2024 12:15

I know he's pleaded guilty and IS guilty but one part of my brain just keeps thinking 'but Huw Edwards is a respectable, sensible, professional nice man, surely it's a mistake'.

I'll get over it like I did with Rolf Harris but it scares me that men who you'd never suspect in a million years are up to this vile stuff.

Me too - loved him on the 10 o'clock news. So shocking.