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Catstaps · 01/08/2024 07:20

i also think his behaviour regarding the 17 year old, paying for pictures is worse than the recent charges , as it’s a strong indicator that he can communicate, make deals with a young person in a real sense. He actually spoke to him via zoom and we don’t know if he met him. Worse indicators than viewing pictures.

SwingTheMonkey · 01/08/2024 07:26

Catstaps · 01/08/2024 07:20

i also think his behaviour regarding the 17 year old, paying for pictures is worse than the recent charges , as it’s a strong indicator that he can communicate, make deals with a young person in a real sense. He actually spoke to him via zoom and we don’t know if he met him. Worse indicators than viewing pictures.

It’s not worse. Every time someone views CSA pictures, it fuels the need for more, thus
more abused children. Viewing CSA pictures isn’t a victimless crime. Behind every picture is a child who has had their life ruined.

It’s definitely not worse to have paid a vulnerable young man for pictures - as bad- but not worse.

Gummybear23 · 01/08/2024 07:26

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 01/08/2024 07:16

He received almost 400 images most of them legal pornography- photos of adults.
In among them for a two month period were 40 illegal ones- children aged 13-15- and two with boys under ten.

Understood.
Thanks

PrincessofWells · 01/08/2024 08:56

teddyandgypsy · 31/07/2024 20:30

Oh well that's alright then. In other words he wanted them but didn't want anything illegal, like there's a difference. This guy is completely morally corrupt

Don't be ridiculous of course there's a difference between legal and illegal pornography.

SwingTheMonkey · 01/08/2024 09:07

PrincessofWells · 01/08/2024 08:56

Don't be ridiculous of course there's a difference between legal and illegal pornography.

He received many, many images of children before he apparently drew the line at a 7-9 year old boy being sexually abused. None of the illegal images sent before that had been a problem- in fact he and his fellow paedophile discussed them in graphic detail.

BananaTeacup · 01/08/2024 09:09

sadabouti · 31/07/2024 23:07

I think people need to realise that the law is structured to compel action. You will be guilty of an offence if you have received child porn and sat on it. Doesn't matter if you went looking for it or if someone sends it to you unsolicited. The point is, it's so appalling, you don't get to make a value judgement on whether you think it's okay to keep quiet or retain the images. This makes it easier to prosecute because you don't have to prove sexual intent or positive action. You just have to show they had it and knew. And quite right too. If you received it unsolicited, you are duty bound to report it. It's not really open for debate, it is for child protection!

The current law is not good. It means if someone is sent an unsolicited image, some people are too scared, and do they take the selfish route and delete it, hoping it goes away.

It's right to compel action, but this discretion is not always applied appropriately.

In Huw's case - yes, it's pretty transparent that he knew there was a strong likelihood that this nonce would send more media over. 'Don't send me that' wears a bit thin when you've revived 42 images.

Icantpaint · 01/08/2024 09:25

SwingTheMonkey · 01/08/2024 09:07

He received many, many images of children before he apparently drew the line at a 7-9 year old boy being sexually abused. None of the illegal images sent before that had been a problem- in fact he and his fellow paedophile discussed them in graphic detail.

I think you’re not understand things

he recieved many legal images before he drew the line. By definition, legal images cannot contain children, so what he did was receive porn, and then upon receiving illegal ones, say that’s not what he wanted and deleted them. Discussions were about the legal
images

his crime was not reporting those images

Grandmasswagbag · 01/08/2024 09:28

Sorry I can't seem to follow this and don't really want to read too much detail. Is this a completely separate crime to the time he was messaging a young person? So he was grooming young men (were they 17+ though?) AND recieving serious abuse images of very young children ?! What on earth? !

Icantpaint · 01/08/2024 09:29

FrancescaContini · 01/08/2024 07:19

No-one’s going to report it though

You’re kidding! If I were sent an image on WhatsApp that showed children being sexually abused, I would be at the police station/ on the phone to the police immediately. I imagine that many people would do the same.

Would you though? Really?

if you knew reporting would mean all devices in your house bing removed and searched, including partner, kids, work ones. If you knew everyone, family friends colleagues, would find out that had happened and that you were being spoken to by police regarding csa images (with no explanation or mitigation meaning they’d think the worst)

there’s a fair chance that reporting would blow up your life and reputation, so I understand why many (some on this thread) would delete and stay quiet.

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Asherrain · 01/08/2024 09:44

I totally agree. Due to his celebrity there is no way he could report without ruining his life.

What he should have done is delete and stop all contact with the peadophile. However even if he had done that, he would still be guilty of making indecent images. There is no evidence of him asking for this content, searching for it, or sharing it with others. How anyone can compare this case with those that physically abuse and harm children is beyond me. Classic mumsnet.

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BloodyHellKenAgain · 01/08/2024 09:49

crumblingschools · 31/07/2024 18:39

@BloodyHellKenAgain he got a 12 month suspended sentence 😡

That's a fucking disgrace.

SwingTheMonkey · 01/08/2024 09:51

Asherrain · 01/08/2024 09:44

I totally agree. Due to his celebrity there is no way he could report without ruining his life.

What he should have done is delete and stop all contact with the peadophile. However even if he had done that, he would still be guilty of making indecent images. There is no evidence of him asking for this content, searching for it, or sharing it with others. How anyone can compare this case with those that physically abuse and harm children is beyond me. Classic mumsnet.

Have you asked yourself how he was in contact with this paedophile? This man contacted him through social media. Do you think someone would just message a public figure on the off chance they might fancy being sent some images showing child sex abuse or do you think this paedophile knew Huw Edwards was into underage boys?

ETA You do know Edwards and this man were having extremely sexually explicit conversations about the photos of young boys that were sent, don’t you? Are people really this thick? It’s all there to read - even on his old employer’s news website!

legallyblond · 01/08/2024 09:59

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Yes, this. The reporting (eg the Guardian, not screaming tabloids) is that he requested the images from the guy on WhatsApp. Most people who want to watch porn which is legal (and yes, legal porn has its issues but it’s definitely legal) just go on Pornhub or whatever. The reports suggest he had no issues with penetration images / videos of 13-15 year old boys. Only on receipt of a video of a 7 year old did he say “oh nothing illegal please”. I have a 13 year old. I can tell you that 13 year old boys look like very young children. They look tiny! He’s not an idiot, the law is absolutely clear on illegal images, and as a result he has pleaded guilty to the very serious sexual offence. No excuses.

Beefcurtains79 · 01/08/2024 10:01

It’s easy to see how women end up defending and staying with partners who do this, looking at the amount of people desperate to make excuses for a man they don’t even know.
Revolting.

sashh · 01/08/2024 10:06

SonicTheHodgeheg · 31/07/2024 13:46

I wonder if the man who sent him the images has been tried if he’s in the UK?
There’s been lots of men who don’t go for prison for owning child abuse images but fucking hell it’s all so grim.

Yes.

Alex Williams from Merthyr Tydfil

Suspended sentence

SwingTheMonkey · 01/08/2024 10:07

Beefcurtains79 · 01/08/2024 10:01

It’s easy to see how women end up defending and staying with partners who do this, looking at the amount of people desperate to make excuses for a man they don’t even know.
Revolting.

It’s absolutely mind blowing.

”He didn’t go looking for the images, he only happily received loads of them showing young teenagers being raped before he drew the line at a 7 year old.”

🤮

Sick.

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 01/08/2024 10:09

Not making excuses. Ensuring people are clear on what he did and didn’t do, in this specific case.

We don’t know what else he did.

Where does it say he knew the guy was a convicted pedophile? As opposed to someone sharing his taste in pornography, and then escalating what they sent to include illegal stuff?

I expect the sentence statement will clarify a lot. Am I right in thinking the judge clarifies what elements were serious, what mitigation there may be, to justify the choice of sentence?

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SwingTheMonkey · 01/08/2024 10:13

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 01/08/2024 10:09

Not making excuses. Ensuring people are clear on what he did and didn’t do, in this specific case.

We don’t know what else he did.

Where does it say he knew the guy was a convicted pedophile? As opposed to someone sharing his taste in pornography, and then escalating what they sent to include illegal stuff?

I expect the sentence statement will clarify a lot. Am I right in thinking the judge clarifies what elements were serious, what mitigation there may be, to justify the choice of sentence?

How do you think this man knew to contact Huw Edwards? Do you think it was just speculative or do you think he had a reputation for his proclivities? There were certainly rumours about him at the BBC towards the end of his time there. How do you explain the fact that he accepted and discussed many category A CSA pictures before he drew the line at the film of the little boy?

sashh · 01/08/2024 10:15

Sorry I should just add that Williams, particularly in Wales, is a very common name and there are probably hundreds with the same name.

Asherrain · 01/08/2024 10:18

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I have asked myself that question yes, but unfortunately I don't have the answers, do you?
It would also be a bit strange to be in contact with a peadophile with the intent to receive illegal images and then ask the person to NOT send illegal images, wouldn't it??
It would also be a bit odd to send images that are illegal and ASK if they are too young, if you had been contacted by someone specifically seeking out illegal images.
I'm assuming the judge has taken all this into account as his sentence is suspended.

Please grow up with your idiotic name calling and learn to have an adult debate. Pathetic.

Beefcurtains79 · 01/08/2024 10:19

KeirSpoutsTwaddle · 01/08/2024 10:09

Not making excuses. Ensuring people are clear on what he did and didn’t do, in this specific case.

We don’t know what else he did.

Where does it say he knew the guy was a convicted pedophile? As opposed to someone sharing his taste in pornography, and then escalating what they sent to include illegal stuff?

I expect the sentence statement will clarify a lot. Am I right in thinking the judge clarifies what elements were serious, what mitigation there may be, to justify the choice of sentence?

Jesus, if that’s you ‘not making excuses’ I’d hate to see you when you really try to defend and minimise a paedophile.

SwingTheMonkey · 01/08/2024 10:26

Asherrain · 01/08/2024 10:18

I have asked myself that question yes, but unfortunately I don't have the answers, do you?
It would also be a bit strange to be in contact with a peadophile with the intent to receive illegal images and then ask the person to NOT send illegal images, wouldn't it??
It would also be a bit odd to send images that are illegal and ASK if they are too young, if you had been contacted by someone specifically seeking out illegal images.
I'm assuming the judge has taken all this into account as his sentence is suspended.

Please grow up with your idiotic name calling and learn to have an adult debate. Pathetic.

He only said he didn’t want illegal pictures after he’d spent a couple of months receiving illegal pictures. It’s just that the most recent one was of a child too young even for Huwy’s tastes. Jesus, read the press, it’s all there.