The driver in the Wimbledon school accident won't be charged?

[RiverF]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw4448xx4keo

It sounds like a unavoidable and unforeseeable medical incident led to the tragedy, but the families wanted justice.

I can't begin to imagine their pain, but this is the right decision?

If the families do move forward with a private prosecution, will that medical evidence need to be presented to the families lawyers ? Does data protection mean the medical records will never be disclosed, not even for the inquest?

I think it was the right verdict, however I can understand the parents wanting to understand it in more detail

Oh FFS. Just needs to be challenged and proven in court. That’s all I’m saying.

You keep saying ‘prove it in court’ but what does that mean? The evidence to the CPS will have been provided by medical experts and independently verified. So by ‘prove it in court’ do you just mean ‘read the evidence out in court’?

And how would they even get to be in court, when the CPS has decided (as is their remit) that there is no crime for her to be charged with? You can’t take someone to a criminal court if the CPS has decided there is no crime.

Challenge what? The irrefutable medical evidence both sides agree on?

My DS had a whopper for his first seizure, but he wasn't medicated until his second. A "whopper" still might not indicate epilepsy and the drugs involved are awful, they don't prescribe unless necessary. We've had more trauma from the medication than the seizures themselves.

The poster I was replying to said they had read somewhere that this driver had had no seizures since, and seemed to think that was suspicious. I was simply pointing out that there is manifold evidence of people having single, one-off seizures. However, I agree that in this case, if the report of an epilepsy diagnosis is correct, it seems virtually certain that the driver has continued to have seizures.

What you're saying is nonsensical.

My late dad had a car crash while having a seizure. He had been seizure free for years. He was very lucky in that he only damaged a wall, and the car. He crossed over a country road and thankfully there was no one coming on the other side. He had no memory of it at all. He was supposed to be driving to a physio appointment in town. Not on a country road miles away. Something very similar to this must have happened this poor woman. It wasn't her fault and she won't ever get over the guilt either. She already has a life sentence. May the two young girls rest in eternal peace.

It could happen to anybody. It could happen to you.

There is no verdict, simply a decision not to prosecute.

There will be a verdict presumably as a result of the inquest.

All I’m saying is, prove it in court. My empathy lies with the families of those sweet baby girls

PROVE WHAT?? do you want the court to sit there waiting for her to have anther seizure or something?

Fuck me. This is like witch hunting. Tie her up, watch her all night and see if any creature comes into the room. That'll be her familiar, case proven, she's a witch, toss her in the pond.

Actually, I'll re-phrase that. This IS witch hunting.

They weren't babies, and I'm perfectly sure that everyone on here empathises with those families - especially as most will be parents themselves.

It's perfectly clear that, if there is going to be a criminal allegation against the driver, it is up to the prosecution to prove it. They have made it very clear that, not only do they have no evidence to enable them to prove it, the evidence they have shows that she wasn't guilty of any crime. No-one needs to prove this to your personal satisfaction.

I think they were trying to imply it was suspicious because there were no other seizures, but none of the news reports seem to suggest it was a single seizure.

I not sure who the poster things will challenged and prove it in court, her brain scans show a signficant epileptic fit, neurologists from both sides agree, she also now has a diagnosis of epilepsy. She’s never had it before and it is far from uncommon to develop epilepsy as we age.

who does the poster want to challenge it. It’s right there and all the neurologists agree. The woman had a massive seizure and was unconcious at the time of the accident.

It's quite disturbing.

I think the fact that there was no braking or swerving and she wasn’t drunk really backs the epilepsy story up. She can’t have been conscious. It’s good that the police have done a thorough investigation of her medical condition and also the car. They can’t just take peoples words for it.

This reminds me of the woman who fell into a diabetic coma whilst driving on a motorway. A passenger in another vehicle phoned police because she had her head slumped back, foot on the acelerator and a child in a car seat in the back. A police car pushed hers off the road.

Medical incident but not a criminal case if, for example, she had hit another car, unless she had knowingly driven with very low blood sugar etc.

Evidence of her diagnosis has been provided to the CPS. Her diagnosis has already been proven.

Why would it need to go to court?

And she must have had more seizures since the accident to get a diagnosis because you can’t get a diagnosis on a single seizure.

my dad had epilepsy, well controlled by medication. He was allowed to drive because of the length of time elapsed since his last seizure. He had his first seizure in his early 20s. He never remembered anything after a seizure.

Do you really think that you’re the only one to think of this? Her medical information will have been highly scrutinised and it will be that that the CPS have based their decision (the absolute right one in my opinion) on.

It’s so shit for the families, but it was an accident.

The ignorance on here is truly scary.

Exactly. There would be no benefit in taking it to court, would be a waste of money. Unless people think that a non medically trained jury should be able to dispute a medical doctor’s diagnosis??

Not one person has said it's the same for her. But she WILL be suffering regardless.

Mate, she not going to be tortured cause it's not her children that were crushed under that car. Enough with the hyperbole, it's not her child that died.”

Hyperbole? Jesus, @FantasticFork something seriously wrong with your lack of empathy.