Parents offered class photo with no 'complex needs' pupils

[BlowDryRat]

This is appalling. A school photographer offered class photo options with SEN children removed. The kids and parents involved must feel so hurt.

Yes but what did they actually say, its very different to say 'complex needs kids' or 'class B' (who happen to be an SEN group)

I really hope it turns out to be one of the reasonable explanations suggested and not a photographer literally airbrushing out children.

Link again to see if it works for people on the app:

‘links to purchase the pictures included images with and without complex needs provision pupils.’ hopefully that’s the school paraphrasing

I think its likely on reflection that it will be established this is a storm in a teacup, whipped up by who knows for what ever reason.

Tempest are awful photographers, am hoping out school ditch them over this.
When DD was 6 she claimed she'd been sent home with the wrongs pictures, they had manipulated them so badly it barely looked like her.

the school name is listed several time and the link is literally a photo of the school sign.

Its Aboyne Primary.

They aren't going to share the link because it was instantly removed and they are going to send a link to buy class photos out to every tom, dick and harry worldwide anyway.

Not. On. The. App.

I find it so sad this is still the attitudes in 2024

i be late 30s now but still remember a film crew from the news when I was so teenager and interviewing us all. When I ask if it was my turn i still remember the lady’s words of “we do not want people like YOU”

I be sad kids todays still have to put up with attitudes like this

Also sad for me cos when my friend sometimes includes me in his films for his fitness business I so worry about “ruining it” when I should just be happy (I a, happy with my friend though in case anyone wonder 🙂)

I think it must be like Mrs TeenandTween says, as it says "complex needs provision", so those children will be in the unit for some of the time. Giving the photographers the benefit of the doubt, they might have also done one of only the complex needs children, but obviously a bad idea to do one without them.

I do think it’s awful but in this situation I can understand why people wouldn’t want this child in the photo.

Although if a child is behaving this way (spitting/ screaming) the teacher should remove them from the photo anyway, it’s not going to benefit anyone and I’m sure the child’s parents wouldn’t want a photo of them screaming.

There must be an explanation. I can’t believe this would be done so blatantly. It can’t be as it seems.

Oh I think this is the company that put tiny DD who had issues with eating and was the youngest and smallest in the class next to the tallest (and probably oldest) boy on the class.… Maybe they thought it was cute. I still really hate looking at that photo.

Utterly revolting attitude and I could cry for the children left out, and their parents. Human beings cannot and should not be "sanitised" this way.

What the fuck, so some people can’t even bear to look at disabled people?

Desperately hoping that there is some kind of context or explanation because otherwise that is beyond disgusting

(PP mentioned one child who spits and disrupts photos on purpose, that is perhaps a little different but there’s no evidence from the article that that’s the case here. Most children with complex needs will just be sitting there like any other child would)

I've started a thread in AIBU because I couldn't find this one.

I don't care how it happened, I'm asking there for how to stop this happening again. It makes me sick.

That should never ever have been an option. For a class photo. Many parents won't know all the children in the class.

So it’s ’not his fault’ yet he does it ‘intentionally’ 😬

If this is how it reads, face value, then obviously it's absolutely awful.
I'm wondering if there is one pupil that has deliberately sabotaged the photo (saw this plenty of times in my career) and the photographer has used the phrase 'complex needs' meaning a behavioural issue, not SEN? And he or she has made a terrible error of judgement by offering a choice with an airbrushed pic?
We had one year where a pupil was making rude gestures with his hands. I was supervising the children still waiting in the line and didn't see the actual pic, photographer didn't notice either until afterwards. He tried to edit the hand gesture but it didn't really work, so we paid for them to come back and do that class again (still including said child of course). Obviously no parents knew any of this.

Really? They didnt question why their kids had to dress up smart again?

@vanillawaffle we told them the pics had been deleted in error.

I think Tempest should be boycotted over this.

Not much shocks me these days. That’s left me lost for words.

As a SEN teacher I have a slightly different view, these photography companies often taken groups of 6 children together then splice them together as a class group. So it could have been that there’s been an option of Class 3 for instance then Class 3B with Class 3B the extra 6 children from the SEN hub. The parents then were given the choice of the 2 photos so the SEN hub were added in rather than deleted if you see what I mean?

Also it’s all done online direct with the photographer these days so the school doesn’t have a say in what’s offered so maybe the photographer thought we will offer a choice of all the photos taken on the day? Not understanding how it would be perceived.

I mean this should be the last straw, because I’ve never understood why parents hand over their money to this over-rated company.
there are plenty local freelance photographers in the communities.

We used to use tempest but stopped many years ago due to lots of reasons and are much happier with our new photographer.

Having said that, it seems feasible that this was a mistake. It seems unfair to judge them - or report them for a hate crime (!) - until what happened has been established.

It wasn't a decision the school took is what the school says which is an attempt to mislead. It's intended to make people think the school didn't know but obviously they did because it's literally the only way the photo could have been taken. It doesn't make sense that the school didn't know.

This is something I also don't understand. School photographers take instructions from the school not the other way round. The photo options would be discussed with the school beforehand.

My kids' primary school used Tempest and one year the class photo was returned with kids having had their wonky 10 year old's teeth all photoshopped. The photographer was surprised when parents asked for the original version instead.

Awful for the parents in this situation and the primary school who would have had no involvement in this situation.