Another XL Bully dog out of control - shot dead by cops

[DistinguishedSocialCommentator]

Please report those that you see on the streets with these dogs that are not muzzled

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13214233/XL-Bully-killed-armed-police-went-rampage-injured-four-people-Battersea.html

@DistinguishedSocialCommentator said all dogs should be muzzled in public though, that’s the difference.

There’s no legal certification for Assistance dogs in the UK. They can be owner trained and as long as they mitigate a disability the owners can’t be questioned unfortunately. If an owner says they’re an Assistance Dog then that has to be taken at face value. You’d be surprised at the the amount of people who have rotties, alsatians, Malinois, mini dashunds, chihuahuas to name a few breeds as assistance animals. There really does need to be some sort of accreditation. Many training organisations are registered with ADUK and provide records of training etc owner trained assistance dogs don’t need to be registered though.

This is why we all need to report them and if all dogs were to be muzzled in public, it would make it easier for cops. The clowns that now ignore the laway will then be aware that they can't hide behind "its not xl bully,,," and etc craps etc

Report people you feel are ignoring the late - cops may not act overnight but the will - possibly send in video footage if safe to take pics

Come the warmer weather we will see a lot more of these clowns being taken for a walk by their XL Bully with a muzzle and not on lead, so be prepared to report, take video if safe as these type of people can be very nasty from what I have seen myself

Well this has Risen from the grave and kicked off hasn't it☠️
I saw two of these abominations unmuzzled today😡

I know that, you know that. Therefore, when I said muzzle all dogs in public, I forgot re dogs for the blind - except those. The assistance dogs, there is no certs atm but as you know new systems can be put in place as per my posts and job done.

XL bully laws did not come in overnight, so muzzling of all dog would give the gove time to set up whatever it takes to make an effective law that was easily enforceable by the very fact the vast majority of dogs, 99% at least had to be muzzled in public along with on a lead, a short lead of 10 feet max

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Did you report the clown/s the xl dogs were taking for a walk?

If there’s no legal certification then they should all be muzzled except - until there is a system - those provided and trained by a list of recognised charities, like GDFTB.

If people can just decide that their dog is an assistance dog it’s become a meaningless term.

@DistinguishedSocialCommentator when you say take this dogs off the owners if walking without a muzzle no matter the breed, where do you propose to put them?

Because the kennels are already full with strays that people dump and there would no room for dogs the dog wardens would just take because they didn't have a muzzle on

It's never going to be any different until we start holding owners to account and charging them with offenses "with a dangerous weapon"

As soon as this law banning XL bullys came into place the searches for cane corso and rottweilers went up ten fold.

I have no issue with muzzling my dogs, they're all muzzle trained from a puppy because at least one point in their lives there is going to come a time where they may need it (e.g. when my dog recently broke a leg). Even my soft as shit dog with no teeth is muzzle trained - I popped it on him recently when he had a blood test as he has a tiny nose/jaw it was easier to hold his head up out the way with something to actually hold onto.

But where do you propose all the police officers needed to patrol local parks and open spaces to actually enforce such a rule are going to come from? Our police forces have been so decimated by cutbacks that they struggle to respond to legit crimes

Exactly that as many will start saying their dog is an "assistance dog," hence my proposal to verify this both for the dog and the person.

Sadly, some will have to be put down.
When a dog is taken off an owner for not following the rules, there should be a massive fine and or prison sentence and that person is banned from keeping another dog. There should also then be a list of people who are banned from keeping a dog that the public has access to so people could report them.

Ruels/laws have to have consequences otherwise they are meaningless.

Yes, but I have little faith that this will make any difference 😕

It’s a bit useless without enforcement.
Goodness knows what’s going to happen over the summer if it’s hot with loads of families and children about.

Our police forces have been so decimated by cutbacks that they struggle to respond to legit crimes
Keeping a dangerous canid without a muzzle is a legitimate crime.
(I added that because your post appeared to imply that it wasn't)

True but unless you, me, my family, relatives, friends, your family/friend and others and the more of us that report these people, the better the chance of getting them off the streets
Come the warmer weather, they will be out and about with the xl dogs no muzzle, no lead and smirk on their face one I aim to wipe.

As I said poss here or another thread, it will take some famous person and their family being mauled by one of these dogs or the new ones some are looking for, to be attacked and then a big uproar and as usual new laws will come in that lack teeth

What I believe in is zero tolerance otherwise you see a few clowns not following the rules and the not so confident jokers that were intail fearful of not following the rules will in time break them

From today's paper and just as I said, ie ALL dogs should be muzzled in public

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13273891/Dog-owner-kicks-animal-mauls-muzzle-street.html

All those fuckwit cult members who thought they were saints transporting Pitbull type canids to Scotland to save the vile creatures which they venerate, well look how that turned out 🙄

Not sure what you are saying. Are you saying Scotland into a ban as well?

I'm all for having all dogs on short leads, muzzled in public and importantly, the owner has to be seen taking the dog for a walk and not the dog dragging the owner along

If you suspect a dog crime - call the cops as we need to report the lawbreakers and if the law is not clear, not our fault as it should be clear and easy way is to have all dogs muzzled in public and on a lead.

Certain kinds of people like to own certain kinds of dogs.

Stupid people seem particularly keen on these XL Bullies.

What the poster is saying is as soon as the ban was announced in England literally hundreds of these dogs were shipped to Scotland to “run free” and “live happy lives without muzzles”. I’m not sure what people thought these dogs would be doing, maybe running free among the heather in the hills and glens? The reality was no home checks were done, dogs were rehomed to unsuitable homes and many were abandoned and some have carried out attacks. Many of these dogs were not chipped and had bite histories. Once the restrictions came into place in England they were still being shipped over the border and those that had either shipped them or sent the to be shipped they were all whining about it.

Read link about "how to defend self against xl.."

IMO, best way to defend yourself against any large dog is to demand all dogs are muzzled in public and and the spot fines for owners that dont follow

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13055513/How-defend-XL-Bully-attack-dangerous-dog-expert-advice-banned-breed.html

I've not kept up to date with xl attacks but there seems to be one serious attack at least every week - the other week a woman was killed

I read a thread on MN where another type of dog had turned aggressive, a previously nice dog.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1904765/xl-bully-attack-hull-boy-injured