Immigrants, students and a few workers and

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possibly, eventually, anyone who wants to go on holiday.

Will have ID cards.

So in terms of opposition,

The first to be come for will be those who have little choice but to comply
Then those who can't afford to study without complying
Then those who must work and so will comply
Then the rest of us who might wish to leave the country and so will end up complying.

Yeah, they are working on those princples of 'first they came for my neighbours, and I said nothing...' Grrr.

It is a very divisive tactic.

TBH, I already have an ID card because dh is in the armed forces, so I don't have an issue with them per se. I can see that the cost is an issue, and that needs to be sorted.

sickening yes it is, slur
i heard this yesterday too on the radio and agree with will have id in increments until we have all been swabbed and finger printed catalogued and catagorized....

liberty and privacy and the loss of,
lost records and mistakes are more my concern

..though cost will go through roof like olympics and everything else but hey dont worry, its only us that pay yet again...

It's not just cost, it's a massive extension of state power and a fundamental change in the legal system and the relationship between state and citizen.

Plus it's a massive database - and we know how great the government is at keeping our personal information safe, don't we?

And it will create horrendous problems. Fingerprints can be faked very, very easily - search 'Bad Science' and 'fingerprint' and you should find a guide to how to do it.

Ooh edam, i remember that quote from one of my German history classes.

11 billion
shameful.

children live in poverty
libraries are constantly under threat
state schools always need more funds

nevermind..we need to know what those foreigners are doing

grrr

Let's face the whole I.d. computer system will fail anyway. NHS computer system (£30 billion?) has been a failure - no GP trusts it. Perhaps someone should explain to Gordon Brown that we do not wish to waste our hard earned taxes on his vanity projects.

More to the point I am 35 - Iknow who I am and if you don't trust me then tough luck.

I especially like your last line, waffle.

Thing is, NHS database is already costing us billions in direct costs PLUS is wasting huge amounts of health professionals' time and confidentiality has already been abused.

If they go ahead with ID cards, no doubt we will all suffer the results even if the project is eventually abandoned (and I'm not convinced it will be, administrations of whatever hue are notoriously reluctant to give up power).

agree edam
if this thing is implemented it will not disappear under any shade of government..

shame its got so little interest here, its what they are relying on too i am afraid..

i cant bear the thought of ds generation only knowing this way of being cctved, dna and personal details recorded on huge databases
its incredibly wrong and sad too