women are their own worse enemies on the maternity ward

[katz]

ok a mail article but it is interesting here

what a nasty and pointless article

of course some women fail to heed medical advice, and are rude, selfish and don;t do the best for themselves....

i would like to wager that the vast majority are nothing like that.

how pathetic.. holding herself up as some moral guardian, pointing out the error of her fellow mothers' ways.... so much easier than blaming the governements past and present for the state of the NHS maternity services.

she should be ashamed of herself

nasty, self-righteous, woman-hating stuff
reminds me why I don't read the Daily Mail

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What an awful article.

"The infant took up a cot in the special baby care unit." Dear god, what an inconsiderate baby.

Meemar - next time have the supppository - you don't notice it and the pain relief is fabulous - I had one after stitches for dd2 and dd3 - highly recommend them!!

Now to this nasty little piece of 'journalism' - did you notice how she doesn't actually know what happened to any of those women with the exception of the pre-eclampsia woman? That's because she and her friend were lurking about listening in on medical and private conversations in a nasty and underhand manner. Ugh. As for the pre-eclampsia patient - well 'Pre-eclampsia causes mother to deliver early and baby to spend time in SCBU' - it's hardly unusual or a stop the presses moment is it?

She does have a point about the smoking imo - it is bloody awful walking through it!

'Although......maternity units can be bloody horrible places because of other patients and their visitors.'
doodle you could say the same about hospitals in general...people don't always behave wisely or considerately outside of hospitals and carry on the same way when they're in hospital...it's a shame!
but why single out women and maternity units? and imply that the very real problems of maternity units are down to women behaving especially badly? Oh i know....because the author spent some time on a maternity ward and now is an absolute authority on the subject...

she does have a point about the smoking. okay, it's a mean and measly piece but the smoking and the telly and the rudeness of rellies is depressing. someone's brother sat eating chips on a bed when i was there, stunk the ward out and was just so uuuugh.

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NL - hopefully there won't be a next time

Seriously though, i'm not a squeamish person and I underwent all kinds of poking and proding and needles during DS1's birth. But I had got all cleaned up, and was down on the ward ready to go to sleep when she offered me the suppository. I just couldn't face having something up my bum so asked for tablets and she really got all huffy with me!

And you'd have thought she'd be pleased - a far more pleasant job to hand over 2 pills !

if you were able to go to sleep you were probably ok with tablets anyway - I had mine right after the stitches when I couldn't have cared what happened as long as there were no more needles or babies heads involved!

Yes - you would think she would be pleased - maybe she had a headache and you took the last two tablets in the ward?

Yes, it is a Mail article.

Those silly women! They're so ill-behaved!

They should be herded and treated like the chattel they are.

Some vintage comments added to the Mail page now too.... complete with arch reference to "human rights" being the root of the problem

arf

And not taking a doctor's word as law!

Imagine that! Impudent women who don't know a god when they see one.

And the author's name is Beezy Marsh.

Beezy? Might try that one out in the Baby Names topic.

what a vile, horrible article!

If you have pre-eclampsia lots of literature tells you not to cut down excessively on salt because it can cause your body to try to retain even more.

Also she seems to miss the point of the NHS, which is that it's there care for everyone, even if they are prevented (by mental health issues, or addictions, or just education) from making the best decisions for themselves. In fact those people and their babies maybe deserve MORE care than the rest of us.

Perhaps we should chuck anyone with an accent or a cigarette lighter or a bacon buttie out into the street and let them give birth in the gutter? That'd soon sort them out. And their babies too.

One of the comments has me cracked up

Just the words: " my freshly operated daughter" hehehehehehe

stone me - if women steered clear of bacon fry ups, they wouldn't have PE . Ghastly article. Some patients and their visitors are rude in all hospitals. It's not just women on the maternity ward.

It was the nightie comment that made me pmsl the most.
Given that she has no idea who left the nightie there, or if it was a mother, what state that woman might have been in at the time, to lay the blame squarely at the mother's door rather than the cleaners or nurses seems a bit rich.

Bloody awful article.

Interesting though that she picked up on husbands being hidden in patient's beds. Why is it such outrageous behaviour to want your partner with you whilst on a maternity unit? Fair enough, it's not practicable on the NHS at the moment, and I daresay most wouldn't want to share a room with a stowaway husband, but in principle is it really such a bad thing?

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I was on a gynae ward last year with some probs and id been in a lot of pain. When I finally went for a bath there was a hospital gown draped over the chair, covered in blood.

Im sorry, but I did not want to remove it myself. I shuffled back out to a nurse who standing at the desk "umm excuse me but someone has left a nightie in the bathroom and erm its a bit..."

"OOOOhhhhh" she says dripping with sarcasm "well they are naughty aren't they?"

I said "well actually, its covered in blood and I dont really want to touch it".

When she saw it she did say in a nicer tone "no I dont blame you". But at that initial moment she made me feel about 2 inches high!

What an utter self righteous pile of crap. Daily Mail journalism at its best. I cannot believe I read anything from that waste of paper anymore because it always makes me so angry . What an utter bitch and so ill informed .
The comment about the baby in SCBU and the Eastern European accent. Why is that relevant?... oh yes because I am writing for the Daily Mail. Fecker!

The smoking is horrendous I agree but ffs...

All women are equal, but some Daily Mail writers are more equal than others