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Britains crueliest parents OMG!

101 replies

mieow · 24/11/2004 11:40

link{http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004542501,00.html\here}

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winnie1 · 24/11/2004 13:06

Sad Sad Sad

motherinferior · 24/11/2004 13:09

Yes, yes, YES. I used to get incredibly annoyed wiht all the fuss-pots who'd tell me my baby was 'too cold like that'. But it did get me thinking; it wasn't as simple as 'she's my baby, get lost', because suppose she HAD been too cold (and I still wonder sometimes)? Children are everyone's responsibility.

Sorry to sound so pretentious.

suzywong · 24/11/2004 13:10

indeed

However, the report did say the children are now thriving, thank goodness evolution makes kids so resillient. Lets hope they get the care they deserve for the rest of their lives.

Would I be shot down in a lot of flames if I suggested that couple are sterilised? Discuss

mummytojames · 24/11/2004 13:13

im sorry if this makes me a bad person but when that mother cried when she got sent down i thik i would have had to slap her and tell her now shes got something to cry about because i can bet it wasnt tears of remorse other wise it wouldnt have got so bad it makes me angry where there are people like me who try there hardest to make sure there children are brought up happy and healthy get a call from social servises and that woman didnt even get a blink even though people knew what was happening please someone let me have five minuites with her she would soon feel sorry for what she did to thoughs poor kids

Mum2girls · 24/11/2004 13:19

Suzywong - agree entirely with the sterilisation comment - that monster will still be of child-bearing age when she comes out of prison - and let's face it, she'll probably be out in 4 years.

The article was absolutely sickening.

bovary · 24/11/2004 13:24

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tiredemma · 24/11/2004 13:27

i know how you feel muumytojames, i felt so angry, id love 5 mins with that woman. the only consilation to that is that in prison she will be in fear everyday from mothers who are away from their children, her life inside will be an extremly unhappy one now......just like she put her kids through, she deserves evryting that is coming to her.

motherinferior · 24/11/2004 13:29

I think if you keep completely out of the loop, the loop does not always get round to including you. If you hadn't had any contact with your GP/HV after your baby, they might well not have got round to seeing you (my HVs don't chase me up, for example). And so it goes, and so it goes. I totally agree someone should have said something to someone. I don't understand why school said nothing - I suspect that if she went much at all the girl, although filthy and smelly, also kept quiet and subdued.

And social services are so demonised that I bet people never thought of making the connection - that they could remonstrate vaguely but not report it.

Hulababy · 24/11/2004 13:39

Horrific and so so sad Those poor children. I hope they can come through this and somehow forgot the suffering they have lived through in their early years.

How can a parent do this to their child? 7 years just doesn't seem to do that justice

mediagirl · 24/11/2004 13:53

It makes me cry when I hear stories about how children have been completely neglected because I would do anything for my kids and this story is one of the worst I have ever heard.
It is pot luck what kind of parents a child is born into and so unfair that there are childless couples who would give their right arm to have children and can't because of various reasons.
These people don't deserve to have children..... I cannot understand why it got to this level without intervention from family/health visitors etc

enid · 24/11/2004 14:00

wish I hadnt read this

agy · 24/11/2004 14:08

I wish the US bit hadn't been on the bottom of that. At least the British children are ok now - thank God.

motherinferior · 24/11/2004 14:09

Actually the more I think about it, the less likely I think it is that the child was sent to school. Can you imagine those parents doing anything about their kids? Or sending the only person who looked after them, out of the house?

I used to go out with a bloke who lived in a part of another city where quite a lot of kids weren't on any sort of school register. It's relatively easy to slip through the net, I do think.

muminlondon · 24/11/2004 14:18

This is unbelievably cruel. When I saw the subject line I thought it was going to be about this story here (another report here - the case hasn't been decided yet.

suzywong · 24/11/2004 14:20

Yes the US things will be giving me nightmares for a long time

ponygirl · 24/11/2004 14:34

Awful Awful Awful

staarbar · 24/11/2004 14:36

This is absolutely horrific. How it can go undetected for so long is beyond me. I think their relatives that babysat should be charged with neglect too. I cried when I read it today and I just hope that each of these poor children makes a good recovery.

I have twin DSs of 2½ and a DD of 4, I'm 6 months into 3rd pregnancy too and I can't bear to hear stories of such horrible neglect. Simply can't understand how a mother can do that to her children.

Staar

lyndap · 24/11/2004 15:36

Sooo sad for those poor wee souls. Totally disgusted by the parents and just thankful that the children were "rescued" in time - though you wonder what the long-term psychological damage might be.
There is no explanation for this apart from sheer evilness

Gobbledigook · 24/11/2004 15:43

SuzyWong - I think your suggestion was kinder than mine (shooting!)! I'd even go so far as to bring back hanging for these sort. Evil b***ds.

moomina · 24/11/2004 15:49

Just horrific. Words really fail me. Those poor, poor babies.

But it is frighteningly easy for this sort of thing to slip through the net. I agree that it's highly unlikely the children ever left the house, let alone went to school. My mum was an HV in the 70s and said that she once turned up at a house where the children were in a similar state. There was a 6-month-old baby in a nappy that she estimated hadn't been changed for several days. She said she will never the vileness of the place and the faces of the children as long as she lives.

This kind of thing is a collective responsibility.

moomina · 24/11/2004 15:50

sorry, should of course read 'never FORGET the vileness of the place'...

turquoise · 24/11/2004 16:04

How horrific. There is a quotation about how all it takes for evil to thrive is for good people to do nothing.
I agree with Suzy Wong re sterilization.
This makes me think of a foster mother I know, who regularly has a little girl coming back to her raw with nappy rash, withdrawn, malnourished and neglected. The foster mother gets her healthy and happy again, then social services insist on her going back to her mother, who is physically and mentally unable to mother her. It is mystifying.

MINNIE1 · 24/11/2004 16:14

OMG that is unreal!!!!!! that is sick... I hope the kids grow up to be better and stronger then there so called parents..

leglebegle · 24/11/2004 16:30

The only thing that stops me from crying my eyes out at this story is the thought of what the other inmates will do to the pair of them when they find out what they are banged up for. The years they spend in prison will be as hellish as they made their childrens. Sorry if that sounds harsh.

Gobbledigook · 24/11/2004 16:34

Why is everyone worried about sounding harsh (it's this world gone mad we live in again isn't it?!) - nothing could be harsh enough for this nasty pair.

Prison is too good for them - they'll be better looked after than their children were. They want solitary confinement, no toilets and the key throwing away. Perhaps then they might begin to understand what they put their babies through. They deserve nothing else.

Oooh, I am cross about this one.

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