The "Silver Killer"

[LadyEloise1]

Has anyone else read in the Sunday Times 29/5/22 about the former Coroner's officer for Cheshire police, Christine Hurst who believes there may well be a serial killer in the area as she finds it unbelievable that supposedly loving husbands have murdered their spouses and then killed themselves as the local police forces believe ?
She believes this because the evidence doesn't stack up.
Another Coroner's Officer for Cheshire Police, Stephanie Davis also questioned the police findings.

Unbelievable doesn’t make it not true. Covid lockdown MH all contribute to loss of a persons self worth .. not saying there’s not a serial killer

How many couples are there? (in this pattern during this timeframe)

I remember reading a couple of years ago about a potential serial killer targeting elderly couples. I’d this linked.

worth consideration at least. I suppose it could be easily over looked as it’s a less usual mo.

@PatAndFrank "Unbelievable doesn't make it not true.........."
I agree with you but if a Coroner's Officer is unhappy and has asked the police to reconsider and a second Coroner's Officer feels likewise surely the police should reinvestigate.
If they were my loved ones I would be devastated. I would want no stone left unturned to discover the truth.

How many couples?

Can we get some more information? I havnt heard anything about this story and have no idea what you're talking about, but it sounds interesting.

I have not seen this anywhere?
Do you have a link?

sorry = it's the DM - and these are old cases - www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10868785/Coroners-officer-believed-serial-killer-murder-suicides-faces-losing-job.html

The Times have done a two-part podcast on it (scroll down a bit to find them).

www.thetimes.co.uk/podcasts/stories-of-our-times

Evidence is highly compelling that it wasn't the husbands.

After the bungled Stephen Port investigations, who'd trust the police to find a serial killer? They are essentially incentivised not to.

One of the men was supposed to have slashed his wrists, cut his throat and THEN hung himself?

Reviving in light of this week’s documentary (ITVX) & new evidence. Anyone watch?

Yes I’ve just watched and now down an investigative rabbit hole ! I’m inclined to agree with the now dismissed coroner, I can’t believe the first scene wasn’t at the very least forensically examined to rule out murder.

An interesting watch, like you I have been reading up more online. I think there is a fair chance the sacked coroners officer was onto something.

The documentary alluded to 3 further cases, looking at those, one seems to fit, the other two have genuine and understandable motives, for example in one a cancer stricken husband unable to care for wife suffering dementia - its therefore easy to see a motive.

My big question though is in the first cases notes found at the scene - they described the wife's tummy bug, the doctors visit - all that was fact, if those notes were drawn up by the killer, then the killer knew them. This would seem to be the case in the second case too (being let into the house).

There are pros and cons to the theory, but I feel it warranted a more measured response from Mr. Plod.

Not to accuse anyone but rather than a crazed serial killer could it not point to a wider family member in the odd case? The level of violence/overkill seemed very odd re: hammer etc too.

Was it case that couples not near or close to children/family. A few days before anyone saw?

Also do police claim they used own experts who proved Stephanie wrong?

The police have just gruffly said she is wrong - it would give the public more confidence if they could explain why.

Certainly with the first case, they messed up badly, no finger printing, cleaning up the crime scene without doing forensics on the blood stains.

Even to the untrained eye there are so many questions, why two hammers ?, why wash the hammer ?, how did he bludgeon her and drive a knife into her skull and yet got no blood on his sleeve? where did the barbiturates come from? , and why not use them. If it was a mercy killing / suicide in the false belief she would not get better, why the level of violence ?- especially when you have sleeping pills to hand. None of it makes any sense.

The sad fact is even if you got it ruled a double murder, with no suspect and no evidence the chances of finding a killer now is likely impossible.

But the issue is that at least two men are recorded as murdering their wives, when they quite possibly did not do.

@DeftWasp That’s awful & so much feels extraordinary. The families though seem to accept as fact?

The statement from Cheshire police statement did say that “these claims were later completely disproved by experts”.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjw8vzz7n70o