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So the Welsh MP who refused to talk in English

144 replies

Beetroot · 11/01/2008 19:12

On the BBC news?

WHY?

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lennygrrl · 11/01/2008 19:20

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Beetroot · 11/01/2008 19:23

so he talk in Welsh and noone listens because they are all thinking - why not just talk in the language that most of the people listening to will understand

weird

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FluffyMummy123 · 11/01/2008 19:23

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southeastastra · 11/01/2008 19:23

missed that, odd

Beetroot · 11/01/2008 19:23

and we cannot hear him talking in Welsh becasue there is a bloke translating over his voice

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Beetroot · 11/01/2008 19:24

next time I am intervied I am going to refuse to speak in Emglish - I will only speak in aborignie

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cerys · 11/01/2008 19:25

Cod, this isn't the first time you have been rude about the Welsh and the Welsh language, so I knew you'd be on this thread.

I'll wait for Moondog to explain things, as I think she'll put it better than me.

FluffyMummy123 · 11/01/2008 19:26

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Beetroot · 11/01/2008 19:26

Cerys if you are a welsh speaker perhaps (ss moondog is not around) you get explain

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BeeEm · 11/01/2008 19:27

Was he talking about welsh issues to welsh people? if so then why would anyone else want to know what he's talking about?
further that - he's a welsh poliitian so why would anyone want toknow what he's talking about?

handlemecarefully · 11/01/2008 19:27

Have you got a link to the full story?

FluffyMummy123 · 11/01/2008 19:27

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cerys · 11/01/2008 19:28

I'm not a fluent Welsh speaker, but at the moment I think I am too at the "made up language" and BIG CON comments to make much sense.

sallystrawberry · 11/01/2008 19:28

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FluffyMummy123 · 11/01/2008 19:28

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Artichokes · 11/01/2008 19:29

I once went to a meeting with The Welsh Language Board who are militant pro-Welsh campaigners who get public funding. The meeting was on a medical sunject. The Welsh Language Board were stumped by medical and kept having to revert to English. Yet the argument they were making was that all doctors in Wales must speak Welsh. It was at that point I decided all campaigners for Welsh must always be ignored at all costs.

Beetroot · 11/01/2008 19:29

No i have not I heard in BBC news

BUT as the bloke only spoke in Welsh I didn't listen to his name or waht he said..as I jsut thought WHY?

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handlemecarefully · 11/01/2008 19:32

It seems a bit .....pointless. How many welsh speakers are there I wonder. It's great to keep the language alive ....but....

LuckySalem · 11/01/2008 19:32

He should be allowed to speak in welsh if he wants to!!

However, if its to people who will mostly understand English it probably would have been better if he's spoken in English.

The reason the welsh language is dying is bcos there is no-one who insists it is spoken in. I'm not a welsh speaker cos I lived on the border and went to an english school where I had a choice of learning French or German

beansprout · 11/01/2008 19:34

Why shouldn't he speak in Welsh?!! A Welsh person speaking Welsh - well, whatever next?!!

handlemecarefully · 11/01/2008 19:36

www.omniglot.com/writing/welsh.htm - oh here we are.

Putting my 'reasonable' hat on (that particular hat has cobwebs on it) I think it is just fine and dandy that he spoke welsh, think the tv channel is at fault for not providing sub titles

Blandmum · 11/01/2008 19:38

why is using your own language pointless?

I can't speak welsh, in part this is due to my inability to learn any language and partly because my father, while being Welsh, only spoke English.

The reason Dad didn't speak Welsh was that his mother and father had both been beaten in school for having been caught speaking Welsh.

The school had a board on a rope that was hung around the neck. The first child caught using welsh would have it hung around their neck. The Child was encouraged to snitch on other childern who spoke in Welsh and the board would be passed on, one to another. Whoever was wearing it at the eand of the day was beaten.

beansprout · 11/01/2008 19:40

Wow MB, that sounds vile. Where was this?

chibi · 11/01/2008 19:40

i am happy that after so many years of facing a decline the Welsh language is being used more often - it is heartening to imagine debates in Welsh in the Welsh Assembly!

I am not Welsh but am a firm supporter of minority language rights. A people's right to use their language is v important.

Given that translation was available, I don't see how this could be more irritating than if an Italian politician had spoken in Italian.

Blandmum · 11/01/2008 19:41

In the Rhondda in the late 19th Century.

My grandfather first crops up in the census records as speaking welsh and english. By the time he was working as a miner at the age of 12 he is listed as only speaking English.

He told dad about he board, who told me.