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Tragic, poor little one year old boy killed by rottweiler at families home...

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ScoobyDoo · 29/12/2007 14:47

What another tragic loss of life, poor little sole

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jellybeans · 30/12/2007 15:36

Very sad. Saw some US statistics which show the top 3 dogs causing fatal injuries are Pit bull-type, Rottweiler and German Shepherd Dog in that order. Doberman was 5th.

I feel very sorry for the family but wish people would not keep these dogs. I would not let my LO's to anyones house who had these dogs or any other which were likely to be left around the kids.

Recently at a kids party we went to, they left dogs running round amongst the kids, I was nervous the whole time as they could have snapped at any point among all the noisy excited kids. I love dogs but those kind of dogs (Rotties etc) are not family pets and should be banned even if it only saves a few lives and some responsible owners have to go without, childrens lives are worth more at the end of the day.

NAB3wishesfor2008 · 30/12/2007 17:51

This has made me very wary of getting a dog while my children are young.

dinny · 30/12/2007 18:17

do you think no dogs should be around children? what is kind of safe practice? I really wanted a dog when the kids are a bit older but not so sure reading this...

NAB3wishesfor2008 · 30/12/2007 18:21

No, I think that is a bit unrealistic but it does make me wary. We see a dog most days whose owner is lovely, as is the dog, and I know she trusts him 100% but I can't bring myself to feel the same. I think dogs need a healthy bit of respect in the sense that they can snap at any time, not in the sense of them being boss.

FluffyMummy123 · 30/12/2007 18:22

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dinny · 30/12/2007 18:23

and suppose they are especially likely to snap when getting over-excited round kids

maybe will stick to cats...

Hulababy · 30/12/2007 18:30

Tragic Poor baby, and how heart breaking for the family, esp the children in the house at the time, inc the 16 year old in charge. Very sad.

I wouldn't have a dog personally. I don't want to take the risk. I had a so called family dog (not one of these types of dreeeds, much smaller type one) suddenly turn on me when I was young - bit my leg and then bit the young girl of the family - no provaction at all, just as I walked into the room (which I had done loads of times before). I wouldn't risk that bite for my child, let alone anything worse.

ScoobyDoo · 30/12/2007 19:24

This is so tragic.

You know i have looked at the mother & fathers bebo pages of little Archie-Lee & look what some selfish pig has written -

SILLY TWAT 43 minutes ago

You should try talking some responsibility!!! Leaving a single mother and then being a tart, you and her should have to take some responsibility for the bab y being killed. Leaving the dog in a yard is bloody stupid and you both or certainly her should never be allowed to have an animal again.

I hope that you and her face jail charges!

What sort of an awful person would do that at this time? makes me sick this world does!

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NAB3wishesfor2008 · 30/12/2007 19:30
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Bumblelion · 30/12/2007 19:38

Not read all the messages (will go back and read) but I have just read about this in the Sunday Papers.

It makes my blood boil. My ex-husband's sister has 2 staffordshire bull terriers (mum and son) and a rottweiler. I am very concerned that I have 3 children (okay, they are 15, 10 and 6) but I had to ask my son (10) whether they ever see 'Jasmine' (the rottweiler) because it scares me to bits that owners see their dogs as the kindest, most friendliest dog ... until it attacks.

My son said that my youngest (now 6 but was 18 months when she first met the dog) was never left alone with Jasmine and that she was kept upstairs (the dog, not my daughter).

Why, oh why on earth, would people keep this type of dog.

For Christmas, all I wanted was a tortoise (and I am still going to buy myself one out of my Christmas bonus) - but my boyfriend asks why a tortoise, why not a dog? I have a cat, 3 children, work, etc. and how would a dog fit into our lives. It would not. A dog generates lots of 'poo' (and with 3 children I cannot do with picking up dog poo in my garden just so my children can go and play in the garden).

I am not against dog owners but am against those who have 'ferocious' (albeit they think it is a friendly family dog) dogs when there is ever any children around.

smallwhitecat · 30/12/2007 19:41

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ScoobyDoo · 30/12/2007 19:48

Sick isn't it NAB

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kid · 30/12/2007 19:53

I see loads of people that live near me with Staffs. I don't trust the dogs near children and neither do I trust them near my Yorkshire Terrier.

It just isn't worth taking the chance when it comes to your kids, dogs can attack, its happened time and time again. The law needs to be changed to protect those poor little kids that get killed or seriously hurt but a so called loving family pet
I have 2 kids and would never, ever have a large powerful dog. I will stick to small dogs that I could easily pull off my children should I ever need to. Our dog has been with us for longer than the children, I have never had any concerns over him, but that doesn't mean I don't think he is capable of hurting anyone.

winestein · 30/12/2007 19:53

Ooops - am absolutely ROFFLING at your posts whilst basking in them all at the same time (I'd pay a thousand pounds to licence my dog)

NAB3wishesfor2008 · 30/12/2007 19:56

What do you mean, winestein.

smallwhitecat · 30/12/2007 19:57

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MargoWishesYouAHappyNooNooYear · 30/12/2007 20:04

NAB - Winestein was talking abouts oops' "s" substiution with a "z".

Scooby - That's terrible to post that on the bebo site, some people are so spiteful. Thankfully they're in the minority.

winestein · 30/12/2007 20:09

Thanks Margo - was seeing to dinner

I'm soooo not getting into the rest of it. Soooo not biting [serene ]

FlllightAttendant · 31/12/2007 08:03

We saw some wolves yesterday at a wild animal park. They looked exactly like GSD's but were fighting each other quite viciously. They were eyeing up ds2 as you would look at a tasty snack, it made my blood run cold for a minute.

Dogs are not that far removed it would seem from their relatives.

Although we saw a feral cat as well, but I don't think a domestic cat however vicious could kill a child.

IlanaK · 31/12/2007 09:26

I am extremely wary of dogs since having children. My Aunt who lives very near us has a yorkshire terrier. One day we were visiting and my youngest son (he was two at the time) was sitting on the floor next to it (it was just laying down). He was not touching it. It suddenly turned on him and went for his face. My husband was right next to them at the time and could not have stopped it. As it is suck a small dog, it did not do much damage. If it had been a rotweiler or other large dog, he would have been seriously injured. Now we don't visit unless the dog is locked away. I think size and weight of the dog is totally relevant as has been said. All dogs are unpredictable, but big dogs are dangerous.

Tamz77 · 31/12/2007 09:32

2 other points:

Some people are so out of control of their dogs it's terifying, my DS was chased/herded by a greyhound in the park about 2 yrs ago, the owner was screaming at it but simply could not catch it. DS has been scared of dogs ever since. Another time we were on a picnic and a huge labrador ran at DS and snatched his sandwich out of his hand then started rifling through his lunchbox. I had to grab it by the scruff and haul it away - not easy - while the owner stood merrily chatting to another dog owner, then when she finally noticed she just stood there giving me dirty looks.

The other thing is that not only are dogs unpredictable, kids are too. We were on a farm in France once and my stepbrother was petting the family collie, a perfectly friendly family dog, until my wee sister popped up behind him and pinched his tail. As a reflex the collie leapt up and bit a chunk out of my stepbrother's face, cue mad rush to hospital, stitches, and permanent scarring; lucky it never got his eye. All it takes is for one child, one time to touch a dog the wrong way and the worst can happen. Small kids and dogs don't mix, simple as that.

littleboo · 31/12/2007 09:35

This situation is just so awful, but sadly it is in the news over and over again.
I don't believe you can ever trust a dog 100%. We have one terrier, who is now 8 and is fantastic with the children, we've had her since my ds1 was a baby ( he's 8), BUT we did also get a border terrier as a pup a few years ago, who was very sweet.... one day she went for my ds3 ... just a snap, didn't touch him, BUT we rehomed her straight away, I just couldn't ever take that risk again. TBH It was the baby who tugged at her, not the dogs fault, but that doesn't make any difference. We did have other friends with dogs who were horrified that we were getting rid of her ( she was also a pedigree and we lost all our money as had to give her away. Not all the money in the world could make up for the loss of a child though.

lilmissmummy · 31/12/2007 10:09

I agree with littleboo, as the owner of a 20 month old Jack Russell I would never trust a dog 100%. They are animals and no matter how well trained, loved, well bred they are, they will always be animals.

The minute that my Jack Russell showed any signs of aggression he would be taken away. He is a well natured little little dog and my 7 year old ds would easily be able over power him if necessary however unless I am in the room with the children or the dog then he is locked in the kitchen. At the moment the dog is under the weather and is permenantly locked in the kitchen until he is better as sick dog plus over excited children straight after Christmas is not a good combination!!!

My children are far more important to me than my dog and I would do everything possible to protect them.

I would happily pay a licence fee for the dog.

hercules1 · 31/12/2007 10:53

I have 2 giant dogs and a small one. DD is never alone with the dogs and we have set up the house so this is easy to monitor.
We chose our breeds carefully and I would say the small dog is far more of a risk to her than the other 2 due to their nature. But that said he is also very unlikely to do it.

Personally I would never have a rottweiler or staffie as they can be great dogs but you need to be experienced and really know what you are doing which sadly a lot of people dont.

ruty · 31/12/2007 13:24

at the very least these dangerous breeds should not be allowed to be purchased without having to get a rather expensive dog licence. Can't believe the govt haven't done this already. I suppose it would be rather costly to police.

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