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Those MUFC footballers - really it is SO time to reign them in - non?

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FluffyMummy123 · 20/12/2007 19:30

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CliffRichardSucksEggsInHell · 20/12/2007 20:31

role models indeed!

How are teenagers meant to treat women when they see their idols treat them with such scant regard. What does it say about marriage and relationships? How would it be viewed if it was a women's party?

I hate celebrities and I hate footballers, I just can't decide which I hate more.

OComeOLIVEfaithfOIL · 20/12/2007 20:41

woman in Manchester are like flies round shit when footballers are around

I have seen them elbow a wife/girlfriend out of the way in a bar to get to a 'star' (I didn't know him from Adam, dh pointed him out)

this 'party' sounds vile

WendyWeber · 20/12/2007 21:15

edam, I'm sceptical about this allegation by this girl in these reported circumstances - not rape allegations in general.

TheDullWitch · 20/12/2007 23:26

Why did these women show up? To shag a footballer, who'd never even know her name. I just don t understand young women. In their dress and their behaviour, they are just wannabe porn stars.

madamez · 20/12/2007 23:30

Reporting of rape accusations (and other crimes these days) is just vile and ridiculous at present. Anyone accused of any crime is innocent until proven guilty - but that doesn't mean that they are either entitled to sell sob stories about how evil the accusers are or that they should be named and slagged off by 'friends' before any case has even come to court.

DeePandcrisPandeven · 20/12/2007 23:46

not sure why the OP is focussing on MUFC players at all.

We have an accusation of rape here, not an entire club and it's players being branded.

Sure footballers wages ARE obscene, but to directly link it to a person not charged with anything as yet is pretty

Lauriefairycake · 21/12/2007 00:01

I think the OP is focusing on ManU because they are the ones who hired in a 100 models, told their wives and girlfriends to stay at home and proceeded to get pissed and fight til 5 in the morning

I'm not sure that evening was ever going to end well.......

Ozymandius · 21/12/2007 00:05

The girls went to the party because they were hired to for money. It was their job. By every single account, the men behaved like animals. Absolutely horrifying. Why did the management allow them to have a 'party' where no wives or girlfriends were allowed, but instead they were able to hire young women to appear.
I went to a bloke's hotel room when I was in my late teens and still a virgin. He said he wanted to collect something, then he tried to lock the door behind me. I was absolutely and totally terrified and I can't really remember what I did (I mean, whether I screamed or banged on the door), but eventually he let me out. I was too ashamed to tell anyone what had happened.
Did I deserve to be raped?

DeePandcrisPandeven · 21/12/2007 00:05

yeah but apart from that....

meeja will always over-report to sell a hot story and this is undoubtedly is one. Hired 100 models, you say??

Also, Sir Alex is a past master at creating an 'us and them' environment to gel a squad..always has. This episode, if/when there is a 'no case to answer' outcome will serve his purpose well.

DeePandcrisPandeven · 21/12/2007 00:07

Ozy - I was referring to the previous post - certainly NOT yours.

EricScrooge · 21/12/2007 00:09

Lets get a sense of perspective here.

None of us really know what happened do we?

It's all silly tabloid speculation at this point.

The accused player is just that - accused.

Nothing has been proven and all the silly reports of what they all did will be from idiots who want to tell an outlandish story to a tabloid.

WendyWeber · 21/12/2007 00:09

Hired? Job? Exactly what job requires you to go to this sort of function?

Ozymandius · 21/12/2007 00:10

I didn't think it was, but thanks!
I think I had a narrow escape frankly. I might have been naive, but I thought I could trust him, even though I'd not known him long. I thought hotels were public places. twenty years on, it still chills me. I think we are too quick to say, 'oh she must have known'. I looked pretty sophisticated, I suspect, but I wasn't.

Ozymandius · 21/12/2007 00:11

Lots of jobs include appearing at parties and events. that's what 'promotion girls' do. They are there to add glamour though, not be raped. It is not at all unusual for young models to be hired to appear at parties.

Lauriefairycake · 21/12/2007 00:12

Eric, one of the interesting things about those 'idiots' are that more than one or two were undercover reporters

I heard earlier there are tapes of bad behaviour - not sexual assault obviously but pretty horrible comments..

DeePandcrisPandeven · 21/12/2007 00:12

thanks Ozy.

I don't for one buy the "he isn't that sort of boy" line for a moment, as a defence.

As Eric says, it IS all hyper-speculation, and very nasty.

EricScrooge · 21/12/2007 00:15

I'm not suggesting that everything was squeaky clean at this event - it obviously wasn't by the sounds of it especially with this hiring of girls nonsense.

It's just that we should refrain form making judgements based on what the papers are saying and one allegation made to the Police.

WendyWeber · 21/12/2007 00:16

update

"The rape claim is thought to have been made by the woman's boyfriend after Evans had left and followed a scuffle, apparently between the boyfriend and another United player.

Detectives are likely to focus on why the alleged attack was reported then rather than immediately it was said to have happened."

EricScrooge · 21/12/2007 00:18

The truth will out.

Let the professionals deal with it rather than the bloody meeja.

DeePandcrisPandeven · 21/12/2007 00:21

Hmmmm.....not the sort of adverse publicity Alex would wish for BUT, all very useful to him.

It IS widely understood that Ferdinand isn't the brightest bulb in the factory, but this set up does take the biscuit.

EricScrooge · 21/12/2007 00:50

Footballers are not lauded for their brain matter anyway.

They are very good at what they do - but off the pitch i think we can expect them to not think along the same lines as us more normal folk.

I still laugh at Peter Crouches answer to an interviewer asking him

"What would you be of you weren't a footballer"

"A virgin"

Quality!

EricScrooge · 21/12/2007 00:52

Peter Crouch's?

EricScrooge · 21/12/2007 00:52

I've just invented a new footballer.

Twat.

madamez · 21/12/2007 23:27

THis whole 'shock horror naughty party' think could be a load of bollocks, really. Possibly the footballers held a men-guests-only party and hired some strippers, possibly some of the dumber ones didn't distinguish between 'stripper' and 'prostitute' and 'I'm a famous footballer and can therefore do what the fuck I like' - we don't know. And nor do the papers wittering on about it.

Gunnerbean · 21/12/2007 23:32

I'd have thought that with all these WAG wanabees a Man Utd player wouldn't have to try to hard to get what he wanted at a christmas party to which 90 such wanabees had been invited. .

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