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"Oh please, you lard-butt British frumps have got off too lightly"

64 replies

AwayInAMunker · 17/12/2007 21:54

Here

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OhGiveUsAPruniPudding · 17/12/2007 23:32

Yeah but slur
All this guy achieves in life is writing crap like this, for people to slag off on the internet.
He must sit there thinking, hmm, how can I wind people up even further? What contentious bollocks can I tickle today?
I mean, as a job, it's kind of pathetic...As a raison d'etre, it's poor. What a chump.
THere are few things sadder (in the modern sense) than seeing someone pour their heart and soul and vitriol into being "outrageous" and knowing that they are being fully exploited to get publicity for some rag that doesn't care a toss what they say, just that they sell copy.

Bink · 17/12/2007 23:33

As always the completely infuriating, well no I'm not actually that bothered - the boring thing about this article is that ...

... he appears to think he's the first & only person ever to think/say/get paid for generating lifestyle bollocks about this.

Hey we've heard it all before. You are NOT NEWS, silly smirky guy.

Bink · 17/12/2007 23:33

ah pruners has made my point with more verve

handlemecarefully · 17/12/2007 23:41

His initial article wasn't totally offensive, - I sort of dismissed it in a good humoured way. But his riposte is pure vitriol

Callisto · 18/12/2007 08:21

Well he is obviously insecure - most misogynists are scared of women arn't they? But he is right that obesity is unattractive (in men and women) and avoidable in most cases. However, he is insulting on a personal level (the date he talks about, I think she must have been very attractive and blew him out as there is no other explanation for the nasty way he describes her) so it is a pretty pointless and very boring article.

southeastastra · 18/12/2007 08:25

he's quite ugly

TheCatInTheHatBert · 18/12/2007 16:11

"Regardless of cost, change your hairstyle from the one you wore to your debutante ball."

Eh?

So much of this article made me really, really cross.

£850 a month on primping? What? Eh? Uh?

I for one am glad we are not as vainly obsessed with ourselves as they are if this is the case. How vacuous can you get?

tarantula · 18/12/2007 16:26

what a deeply strangely weird man. Obviously needs to get out and start living.

Or even better he shoudl go on that arranged marriage show Thatd learn him

SSStollenzeit · 18/12/2007 16:26

ACtually it reminded me of an (awful) article I read last year sometime by an American comparing, to their detriment, American women with Russian ones.

Basically he wrote that American woman took no interest in their appearance, were overweight, ungroomed, made no effort to dress well or look good and actually SMELT and they could learn a lot from Russian women in terms of personal hygiene but apparently not dental hygiene.

So he and Tad met very different American women or what?!

Very odd altogether those kind of wild generalisations about women. Men seem to just love making them. It's the way they're made it seems, poor souls.

HappyChristmasWalrusIsOver · 18/12/2007 16:36

The man is obv a prize penis.

handlemecarefully · 18/12/2007 17:46

It's not the article that saddens it me (it is just a bit of pointless fluff), it's the comments from readers that are depressing, and I've read the majority of them. Frankly I find them upsetting and disappointing

Here is a typical post:

"It is quite offensive how slovenly many English women have become. Yes, this looks bad on men, but it looks even worse on women, who were previously considered the "fairer" sex. When accompanied by such arrogance it is even more mystifying and less palatable.

Women, we don't want to be ashamed of you - we'd rather be proud of you. Please read my article and Tad's and allow graceful English roses to grow once again in England, for it is fast - and sadly justifiably and embarrassingly - becoming known as the land of the "fat tarts" instead. "

There is so much rank mysogny out there, and most troubling of all is the notion that a woman's intrinsic value is all tied up in her aesthetic appeal for heaven's sake. So women - unless you have groomed yourself to within an inch of your life, you are worthless!

From the comments posted there are a sizeable number of people who actually think like this.....

PeachyHasAFiggyPudInTheOven · 18/12/2007 17:48

Obligatory beauty maintenance? I literally have in the mornings 5 minutes to get ready including wash and dress. Beauty is a thing of the past!

AS the elegant people say, however,

wot-eva

handlemecarefully · 18/12/2007 17:54

Well quite, most of the time it is hardly a priority (and neither should it be)

EricScrooge · 18/12/2007 17:59

There are lots of 'frumps' who don't care what they look like.

But you can't label a whole nation like that.

They are everywhere all over the world.

handlemecarefully · 18/12/2007 18:02

But that's surely not the point Eric? The point (for me, at least) is so what if there are frumps who don't care what they look like - why should they?

handlemecarefully · 18/12/2007 18:03

It doesn't make them less valid as people

LoveAngelGabriel · 18/12/2007 18:05

Tosser. I hope he ends up with a highly groomed American ball breaker of a woman who will take the occasional break between flossing, waxing and plucking to slap him very hard around his stupid, smug little face.

Bouncingturtlewithtinsel · 18/12/2007 18:22

My beauty regime - jump in shower every morning, twice a week to wash hair.
Drag a brush through hair. Get dressed in something that vaguely matches.
If I'm going out I might actually blow dry my hair after washing it (most of the time I let it dry naturally) and put a bit of slap on.
DH still thinks I'm beautiful. I don't need to do any more than this.
Guy's a wanker. His opinion is nothing to me.

handlemecarefully · 18/12/2007 18:24

His opinion is nothing to me either - what is disturbing is that his opinion seems to resonate with a lot of people

PeachyHasAFiggyPudInTheOven · 18/12/2007 18:25

There's a lot of frumps who don't seem to care what they look like anyway (and good on them if so)

I reckon most poeple would like the chance to spend more time on themselves- perhaps not a ridiculous £700 a month or hors a day, but enough time to slap on some lippy and choose an outfit theya ctually like rather than suffices- I know I wuld, I was qute vain when younger, but a coupla scrapping SN kids of a mornig has long ago put paid to that!

C'est la vie- we move in stages through our lives, and our schedules must adapt to fit that

ninedragons · 19/12/2007 06:54

I haven't read the article because the Times is a waste of pixels now.

But I was reading elsewhere about a month ago that the new trend among NY trophy wives is to have an elective c-section at about 35-37 weeks, so they don't put on that last month of pregnancy weight. Sounds like exactly the sort of thing that the writer would regard as simple good grooming.

Bell-end.

Coolchristmasfairy · 19/12/2007 07:07

I think he has a point, though.

OverMyDeadStuffedTurkey · 19/12/2007 07:45

I think he has a point too tbh, walk down the average high street and it's not a pretty sight. His comment about Vivki pollard lookalikes was spot on.

Although I think he's wrong about it being confined to English people.

Snaf · 19/12/2007 07:51

And his point is?

Coolchristmasfairy · 19/12/2007 07:54

His point being that women over here do, I think, spend a little less time on their appearance (for whatever reason) compared with some women in other countries - yes, he said it in a deliberately provocative way, but I do agree that there is a kernel of truth there somewhere.

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