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Caitlin Moran Blogging for Expat

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FlamesparodyOfAChristmasName · 10/12/2007 10:53

here

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SquonkaClaus · 10/12/2007 10:54

well said, St Caitlin of Moran

Nemostwonderfultimeoftheyear · 10/12/2007 10:57

Am glad she has done it..there are soo many of us who have been through the situation and something should be changed..I had similair to expat in the mmc before I had dd1 and it devestated me much more than my natural mcs.

JingleyJen · 10/12/2007 10:57

I don't know Expat very well but I really wouldn't want this lady to be posting on her blog with such explicit details about her unfortunate experiences. Did she ask permission to give date and time of Expats appointment and location?

Hmm Good to start a campaign to get things changed she has been treated appaulingly (sp?) but perhaps didn't need to happen today when she is going to have a horrid day.

Maybe it is just me.

FlamesparodyOfAChristmasName · 10/12/2007 10:58

Hopefully this will get more people on board to changing it.

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TheIceQueen · 10/12/2007 11:01

JJ - I think she did - at least she's mentioned to people close to Expat that she was going to do it - so I presume it was mentioned to expat - and that she (expat) didn't say no..

JingleyJen · 10/12/2007 11:03

TIQ that is ok then, I just thought that Expat may come out of hospital to find RL journo's wanting her story when she may want some peace IYKWIM

TheIceQueen · 10/12/2007 11:05

blimey - I've just read my last post - It makes no sense at all

SquonkaClaus · 10/12/2007 11:05

TIQ: It made sense to us

TheIceQueen · 10/12/2007 11:07

wow - I'm impressed [frgin] - as reading it back it doesn't make sense to me

FlamesparodyOfAChristmasName · 10/12/2007 11:11

I was assuming she knew too as there was prior warning

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fransmom · 10/12/2007 12:27

made sense to me too tiq

TwoIfBySanta · 10/12/2007 14:10

I didn't know Expat was going through this, I am very sorry to hear it.

From my own experience the NHS are extremely bad at dealing with this sort of thing, not so much that they don't care...but they don't. I had the whole "stop making a fuss" attitude as well and it is crushing.

paulaplumpbottom · 10/12/2007 14:44

This is something that has got to change. That anyone should think this is appropriate shocks me.

drosophila · 10/12/2007 14:50

I also remember being in the same ward as women and their new born baies while mine was upstairs in the SBU. That hurt I can tell you. I was there for a week imagine being there longer. Not in the same league as Expat though.

Highlander · 10/12/2007 15:10

I was admitted to an ante-natal ward before I had DS2 and the woman in the room next to me had had a 20 week stillbirth. The rest of us were obviously heavily preggers, and she was devastated, trying to get staff to organise to see her baby in the morgue the next day etc etc. It was awful. The staff made no effort to speak quietly, one nurse even yelling out of her door to a collegue, 'have you seen the bereavement register?!'. When the registrar finally came to see this poor woamn, she breezed in, apologised for keeping her waiting saying, 'sorry, the labour suite is manic today.'

AnneMayesR · 10/12/2007 15:49

We have no beds in the NHS and no staff and all they care about is their goddamn targets!! It is disgusting how they treat the patients and the staff too.

I worked on a 30 bed medical ward which is mostly elderly people. They combined us with the gynae ward. So now we have a woman who just suffered her 2nd stillbirth in a bed right next to a 90 year old with dementia who spends her days smearing shit on the walls. There is one nurse to 19 or so patients so we barely have time to talk to anyone without risking someone elses life let alone sort out beds.

The rain has been coming through the roof on the ward and tiles have started caving in and coming down. One room is particularly bad. It was too remain empty and the nurses said that they will NOT put a patient in there.

At 3AM last night I get a call that patients are breaching the 4 hour targets in A&E and that they have no beds to put them in so I have to take an admission into the room where the roof is caving in. The roof has been like this for months and they will not pay out to fix it. The admission is a young woman who is miscarrying.

I said I will not put her in that room as it is dangerous and she has been through enough and that room should be condemned. They brought her into it anyway I am in the process of getting busted for insubordination. When I went off duty this morning the on coming nurses promised to get this poor girl into a safe bed even if it means getting another patient transferred out to another hospital. Everyone was appalled. They just treat staff and patients like complete shit.

One of our nurses had an allergic reaction to a med she was handling and went into shock and stopped breathing...ended up on ITU on a ventilator. A manager went down there a day after she came around and told her to get her arse back to work or there would be trouble because A. They are short of beds and B. They can't afford to have staff off sick.

I could go on and on and on and on. You wouldn't believe what goes on.

No beds and no staff. It is a disgrace.

AnneMayesR · 10/12/2007 15:59

Funny that there is no staff when 80% of new grad nurses are unable to find jobs. There is a nationwide recruitment freeze and no one will hire. It is a money saving thing. We told the managers that re staffing levels are beyond dangerous and that people's lives and the nurses' registration/licenses are at risk and their response was tough titties deal with it.

drosophila · 10/12/2007 17:19

Anne that is awful. How long have you worked in NHS?

TwoIfBySanta · 10/12/2007 19:48

Anne, bet there isn't a recruitment freeze on managers. There always seems to be plenty of them.

tribpot · 10/12/2007 19:55

I didn't realise expat was going through this, am very sorry

katierocket · 10/12/2007 19:59

JingleyJen - Expat has posted it all on here anyway and although mumsnet might feel like a warm cosy chat with friends it's still the internet.

Poor expat, it's shit. There is a thread somewhere for anyone who wants to help.

ohcomeALYefaithful · 10/12/2007 20:05

drosophila I had a similar experience to you, although not as horrific as losing your baby, it was still dreadful.

I was put into a full ward of new mothers when I hadn't even seen my own LO, he was taken off to SCBU within moments of being born, I didn't get to see him for 5+ hours and then only for 15 minutes before I had to leave.

I was on a ward full of crying babies, between the door to the sluice and the only loo in the whole ward (doors banging often) opposite a heroin addict who'd had twins (born addicted) and they regularly screamed for hours at night whilst she left the ward (the MW often had to feed them and take them to SCBU for their 'fix' as she wasn't there) to smoke outside - ringing the ward doorbell loudly each time she returned.

I was there without my DS for a week. At night I often slept on the row of chairs outside X-ray as this was closer to my DS.

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