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Man runs over family in premeditated atttack

31 replies

Breadcheesebread · 08/06/2021 21:11

www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57390398.amp

More than likely he will 'have mental health issues'.

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Smallredclip · 08/06/2021 21:12

Femicide. Sad

SparklyLeprechaun · 08/06/2021 21:30

@Smallredclip

Femicide. Sad
What's that got to do with anything? It was a racist attack, family of 5, 2 women, a man, a girl and a boy. Terrible hate crime, but femicide?Confused
Chicchicchicchiclana · 08/06/2021 21:31

Yabu.

Lockheart · 08/06/2021 21:34

If someone can run over a family it's entirely possible they have mental health problems. Not sure why you needed to put that in quote marks. It's not exactly the action of someone sane, stable, and rational is it?

Unfortunately continuous lack of investment in proper mental health care around the world by various governments means too many people go untreated and others end up paying the price.

Breadcheesebread · 08/06/2021 21:35

@Chicchicchicchiclana

Yabu.
How so?
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Ellpellwood · 08/06/2021 21:35

@Breadcheesebread

www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57390398.amp

More than likely he will 'have mental health issues'.

What's your point?

They've already said they're considering terrorism charges, if this is some sort of point about how the media treats white murderers.

Breadcheesebread · 08/06/2021 21:37

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Nutrafin · 08/06/2021 21:38

If someone can run over a family it's entirely possible they have mental health problems. Not sure why you needed to put that in quote marks

I believe the OP is referencing how, when a person of colour (particularly as Muslim) does something like this they are labelled a terrorist but, when it's a white person, the 't' word is replaced with 'has mental health issues'.

GappyValley · 08/06/2021 21:38

@Lockheart

If someone can run over a family it's entirely possible they have mental health problems. Not sure why you needed to put that in quote marks. It's not exactly the action of someone sane, stable, and rational is it?

Unfortunately continuous lack of investment in proper mental health care around the world by various governments means too many people go untreated and others end up paying the price.

Because when a white perpetrator kills Muslim victims, they have mental health problems and it’s an isolated case And when a Muslim perpetrator kills white victims, they are a terrorist and the whole Muslim community is held responsible

If you can’t see the difference in language used in the reporting of this compared to, say, the London Bridge attacks, you really ought to read the stories a bit more carefully

Breadcheesebread · 08/06/2021 21:38

Considering and prematurely reporting it as a terrorist attack are two very different things.

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SmokeyDevil · 08/06/2021 21:40

It was likely a racist attack. Can't imagine he didn't spot any other families before then so if it was just opportunistic, why not hit others? He set out to do that. Was probably his neighbours.

Lockheart · 08/06/2021 21:40

@Breadcheesebread the way it's reported in the media has no impact on the facts of the case.

If you want to start a thread about how the media portrays attacks by e.g. Muslims Vs young white males then by all means do so, it's a disgrace. Don't go after mental health as though it's some sort of cop out clause.

Breadcheesebread · 08/06/2021 21:41

It is a cop out clause.

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Lockheart · 08/06/2021 21:43

Yes @GappyValley, I know.

It's the same difference in the way Meghan Markle was portrayed vs Kate Middleton.

Most intelligent people know the media is incredibly biased.

OPs post reads like it's trying to minimise mental health problems, which is a totally different thing.

Lockheart · 08/06/2021 21:43

@Breadcheesebread

It is a cop out clause.
Not if you actually have mental health problems it isn't.
Breadcheesebread · 08/06/2021 21:43

@Lockheart

Yes *@GappyValley*, I know.

It's the same difference in the way Meghan Markle was portrayed vs Kate Middleton.

Most intelligent people know the media is incredibly biased.

OPs post reads like it's trying to minimise mental health problems, which is a totally different thing.

That's how YOU are choosing to read it.
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SmokeyDevil · 08/06/2021 21:44

@Breadcheesebread

It is a cop out clause.
It just turns to that though because the defence wants them to get a reduced sentence. Being insane is literally their only card.
flashbac · 08/06/2021 21:47

Can we focus on the victims for a minute here? Went for a walk and got brutally mowed down. Awful.

SmokeyDevil · 08/06/2021 21:50

It's like with anders breivik, they were trying to get him found clinically insane, but I'm pretty sure he argued against that and said he wasn't. He was later found not insane.

Maybe it was someone else who said they didn't have mental health problems. The defence is always going to try and plead this, as literally what other choice do they have? The media just reports it.

Breadcheesebread · 08/06/2021 21:50

@flashbac

Can we focus on the victims for a minute here? Went for a walk and got brutally mowed down. Awful.
You are absolutely right.

They are the ones that we should be focusing on.

And that poor boy that lost so many members of his family.

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supermoonrising · 08/06/2021 21:58

Terrible. Sadly terrorism by rightwing racists doesn’t receive even 10% the media coverage of leftwing students dunking a statue of some ancient slave trader etc

Interesting how, even when they do concede its terrorism, it’s always presented a “lone wolf” white extremist nutter who got carried away, not a guy who has bought into the increasingly and disturbingly prevalent “the west belongs to white people and/or Christians” ideology. Whereas the equivalent Muslim nutter is always presented as some kind of “soldier” of radical Islam’s war on the west.

MedusasBadHairDay · 08/06/2021 22:05

That poor boy. I really hope he has some other family nearby who can step in and look after him. It's utterly heartbreaking.

maddening · 08/06/2021 22:20

To me it reads that you are suggesting a race bias on the reporting of a crime perpetrated by a white person against Muslim people, whereas if it were the other way round it would be a "terrorist" attack. In.which case I would wait and see hat is reported before making this conclusion.

However, however this is reported, what an awful tragic case, that poor boy has likely.lost parents and a sibling, there are no words for what he must be going through.

Snowstorming · 08/06/2021 22:49

One of the boy’s relatives on Twitter mentioned he has an uncle in the same country and the other grandparent who is abroad. It’s a shocking, disgusting and heartless act that has left an innocent child orphaned.

Media bias is disgraceful. 100%.

Breadcheesebread · 09/06/2021 09:07

@maddening

To me it reads that you are suggesting a race bias on the reporting of a crime perpetrated by a white person against Muslim people, whereas if it were the other way round it would be a "terrorist" attack. In.which case I would wait and see hat is reported before making this conclusion.

However, however this is reported, what an awful tragic case, that poor boy has likely.lost parents and a sibling, there are no words for what he must be going through.

There is a race bias.

Or a faith bias.

There are always biases which tip in the favour of Caucasians.

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