Completely mad

[mumofteens]

The jab is completely insane. There are no long term studies - it has caused adverse reactions including death (just google it - quite a few deaths). Cervical cancer is a rare disease with a death rate of 2.6 per 100,000. Hardly a raging epidemic. Cervical cancer is highly treatable if caught early. The very few deaths per year are nearly all in the elderly. Smear tests have successfully reduced its incidence.

My niece had the jab, collapsed immediately afterwards and broke her nose so had to be carted off to casualty. This has been quite common - ie collapsing following the jab. The GPs are so clueless they don't even bother to warn people so you have the ludicrous situation whereby children are receiving a jab of unknown efficacy for a disease they were never going to get anyway, then collapsing and banging their heads, ending up in casualty. I'll tell my daughters to stick with the smear tests and practice responsible sexual practices. They will certainly not be guinea pigs for this senseless vaccine.

sorry this should have been in the cervical cancer thread. Still think it's mad, mad, mad.

I have a friend whos current gf is looking at 3 weeks of combined chemo and radiotherapy for extensive cervical canver. It has already spread and while they are hoping for a cure, it may well not happen. She is in her mid 30s and is now never going to me a mother.

She has already had extensive surgery.

She never missed a smear test in her life, and did all the right things. 2.6/ 100,000 may not seem much, but I bet she wishes that the vaccine had been available when she was a teen ager.

Tragic, really tragic. But I must admit I would be suspicious about the labs where the smears were sent to?? In my humble opinion, the NHS is extraordinarily inefficient and routinely loses samples/makes errors/can't be arsed. This is just so common, there are so many cases where a diagnosis has been missed due to inefficiency.

It's all very well for the medics to turn around and say this wouldn't have happened if there had been a vaccine. How do they know? They don't know. I would be suspicious that they are trying to deflect any criticism. Okay, I am a sceptic, but I would be asking some searching questions.

I would point out that the vaccine does not claim to protect against all types of cervical cancer. It claims to reduce the risk. So according to the manufacturers you can have the vaccine and still get cervical cancer.

I wish your friend good luck and a recovery. Cancer is such a horrible disease.

Was she very unlucky to have the changes missed by regular smear tests? Or is it a particularly agressive type of cancer? Is it one that would have been caused by hpv? I'm asking this because my mother died from cancer which had begun as cervical cancer. The consultants despaired because they said that it would have been developing over a period of 10years to be at the point it was when she sought treatment. They said that for several years it would have been treatable and should have been picked up during her smear tests. Unfortunately she never had a smear done in her life.
While I would love to think there was a vaccine that could prevent cervical cancer, I too am wary of any unknown long term problems this vaccine might cause.

yes, yes and yes.

the poor woman was very unlucky. The cancer she has is very agressive and developed between smears

That really is tragic I can understand how your friend's gf would have wanted the opportunity to have had this vaccine.