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Robert Murat's home being searched again

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totaleclipse · 04/08/2007 16:04

news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,91210-1278599,00.html

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dinny · 06/08/2007 20:48

of course they wouldn't have

I imagine the worst they are guilty of is leaving them unchecked for longer than they have said they did

totaleclipse · 06/08/2007 20:52

I have a feeking we will never know what happened

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totaleclipse · 06/08/2007 20:52

feeling.

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dinny · 06/08/2007 20:54

oh, we will, the British detectives have made huge advances already (ie. detected this blood in the apartment)

totaleclipse · 06/08/2007 20:57

I hope so, but we can never be sure if what is written is true or not. I cant believe she was killed in the room, considering the twins were still sleeping soundly, but then there are the rumours that the children were slightly drugged to help them sleep???

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dinny · 06/08/2007 20:59

just reminds me of that English girl on that school trip to Brittany who was murdered in the room where her friends were asleep

even if the twins had woken, so what? no-one was there to hear them anyone. sadly

totaleclipse · 06/08/2007 21:03

Well, am glad the british police are finally out there and starting the investigation from scratch.......... fingers crossed for a miricle.

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LIZS · 06/08/2007 21:15

British police hhve been there all along.

totaleclipse · 06/08/2007 21:18

yes, but I dont think they have been hands on since the beginning, have they? more for sipport and guidance.

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totaleclipse · 06/08/2007 21:18

support

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furReal · 06/08/2007 21:19

Because the repercussions for them could be huge. imagine the headline "three-year-old girl dies in accident after being left unsupervised in holiday apartment along with two-year-old twins". And then if it transpired that the child had been drugged, as has been reported to be the case, they could stand to lose everything. These are doctors, apparently well-educated people, people who have the lives of others in their hands on a daily basis. At best there would be an ss investigation and their suitability as parents would be scrutinised, at worst they would be charged with child neglect and have their twins taken into care.

If Madeleine had had an accident, and upon checking the apartment it was apparent that she was already dead, there would be nothing anyone could do, they would have lost one child, but they could do something to prevent them losing the other two...

hunkermunker · 06/08/2007 21:23

Hey, here's a thought, how about you keep your sick fuck notions to yourself, FurReal?

What good is it doing, musing in this vulture-esque fashion?!

totaleclipse · 06/08/2007 21:26

I dont buy that for a second, there were in total about 8 adults turn taking in checking on the children, how likly is it that an accident happened just before it was one of the parents turn to check, how could they have removed evidence so quickly without the rest of the family and friends they were with getting suspicious, and how could any loving parent think up such a plan so quickly on finding thier child dead.

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chocolatedot · 06/08/2007 21:30

And pray tell, how exactly did they disposse of the body and/ or evidence of the 'accident'?

LIZS · 06/08/2007 21:33

is n't all this speculation pointless.... again

wannaBe · 06/08/2007 21:58

hmmm. That theory isn't a new one actually - along with the one that claims the abduction was all a hoax in order to elevate the Mccanns to the status of celebrity ... and one that claims she was accidentally given an overdose of the sedative she was given to prevent her sleepwalking.

Unfortunately, when a case stays in the media for so long, people are going to speculate about the possibilities, and reality is, none of those theories are any more far-fetched than the one that says Madeleine was watched and abducted to order by a paedophile ring. Well perhaps the one about the whole thing being a hoax is more far-fetched, but the others certainly aren't implausible. Not that I'm saying I think that's what happened, but the chance of a child being harmed by someone close to them is far more likely than the alternative senarios, which is why people are often so quick to assume that it must have been friend/family etc.

And if, as has been suggested, Madeleine was killed in the apartment, it would increase the chance of the killer being someone known to her, given that, according to reports, attempts had been made to clean the blood off the walls. An opportunist killer wouldn't come into the apartment, kill a child, and then clean up the mess he'd made before leaving with that child, especially given that he would only have had a half hour window in which to do so.

LIZS · 07/08/2007 07:26

No this theory is not new nor is this so-called evidence which apparently may have been found some time back during the initial investigation and eliminated. Because the Portuguese police legally cannot comment on their enquiries, the speculation continues and theories become more far fetched. Doesn't mean they don't have leads and follow them up . General public/media have no right to expect to be continually in the loop.

Theclosetpagan · 07/08/2007 07:42

Blood in the apartment means...what exactly? We don't know who it came from - the apartment had been let countless times before the McCanns had it. Even if the blood does turn out to be from one of the McCann family it could be any reason - a nose bleed from any of the family, for example, might be expected to leave traces of blood. Sadly I think this is a chance finding which will go the same ways as all the other so called leads in this case - nowhere.

TwoIfBySea · 07/08/2007 17:32

furReal you may be closer to the truth unfortunately, it would seem, according to the Portugean press (tv and papers), that the PJ have believed for a month now that the poor child died in the apartment either murdered or neglect. They have been watching the family and friends all this time.

Oh I had hoped, regardless of the parents actions, that Madeleine would be found alive. Poor baby. I hope this is wrong but it doesn't look like it.

foxcub · 07/08/2007 18:05

I think we need to wait until the forensic tests are completed before speculating on whether or not it is Madeleine's blood.

I wouldn't take anything printed in the media too seriously either

littleredhen · 07/08/2007 19:07

I did read the other person they have been watching and suspect as being involved is 40. Have to say it crossed my mind if it was one of their party.

bobbysmum07 · 07/08/2007 20:07

When was this child last seen alive exactly and by whom? Murderers do not take the time to clean up the crime scene before leaving with the body. If that blood belongs to that child, someone in that apartment did it.

littleredhen · 07/08/2007 20:51

just unthinkable, isn't it - so awful, poor child.

utterMadness · 07/08/2007 22:01

Whatever the outcome of this case, I think serious questions need to be asked with regards to the way the media report these stories.

From the very outset, the media have controlled how people feel about this, how the public have been allowed to react to this.

When people dared to suggest that leaving three children unattended to go out to dinner was wrong, the papers were quick to point out that these were educated people. They were ?doctors? after all, something which the papers seem to feel the need to keep telling us, and that they were only 50 yards from the apartment and could see the door, and were checking every 30 minutes, or was it every hour, or was it 100 yards.

And only the abduction theory would suffice. In all the papers Madeleine had been ?snatched from her bed?, despite the fact that the Portuguese police have never actually confirmed that Madeleine was abducted. And once the word paedophile was mentioned the tabloids really went to town. There?s nothing the sun loves to report on more than the presence of paedos, they?re everywhere, paedo rings, snatching children to order, maybe Madeleine had even been targeted before she left the UK, and the paedo pounced when the opportunity arose, during that half hour slot when nobody was watching.

And then came Robert Murat. As soon as the police started searching his villa the media were there. And before long we knew who he was, where he lived, where his wife and child lived and what they looked like, and a detailed history of his life. Oh and the fact that he had a glass eye, this must be relevant after all. But there was one thing missing. Robert Murat hasn?t actually been charged with a crime. But that didn?t seem to stop the papers from ruining his life, and the lives of his ex wife and 4 year old daughter, a daughter who, the media needed to tell us, looked like Madeleine.

And now it seems that Robert Murat Is going to be cleared of any suspicion. So will the media apologise? Unlikely, in fact they?ll probably offer him a massive sum of money for his story, maybe it?ll be a bit of damage limitation for them. Pay him off, as it were, before he takes them to court for ruining his life.

But now the tide has turned. Blood has apparently been found in the apartment where Madeleine was sleeping . ?Madeleine?s blood?, say some of the papers. But how can they know that? When the blood hasn?t actually been annalised yet? So yet again the media have jumped ahead and reported that Madeleine was probably murdered, and now the friends and family are in the frame, have been under survailence for a month in fact.

So what if it isn?t Madeleine?s blood? What will the media report then?

Who knows, but you can bet that whatever it is, the public will lap it up and the previous theory will be forgotten and make way for a new one.

And still Madeleine hasn?t been found, may never be found.

UCM · 07/08/2007 22:04

I have not read this entire thread, but just wanted to say that in every hot country, there are mozzies and they bite and if swatted leave a bit of blood. This could be the blood story. How many of you have swatted the buggers and left blood on the walls of your villa. I have.