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Oh Look, Russia is cutting Gas supplies to Belarus. Bullies I tell ya. They are bullies.

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eleusis · 01/08/2007 13:41

Why does no one care?

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6925718.stm

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bundle · 01/08/2007 13:43

gosh their gas has gone up even more than ours

Tigana · 01/08/2007 13:43

I care.
They are bullies.

eleusis · 01/08/2007 13:50

They are paying more than double the price. And they are still getting cut off!

Putin scares me.

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eleusis · 01/08/2007 13:52

Actually that isn't fair to say. They aren't being cut off completely. But, certainly a reduction. And Russia says it won't inpact the supplies that come through Belarus to Western Europe. Yeah, right. I believe that.

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sfxmum · 01/08/2007 13:56

but they are a shinning exemplary democracy fighting terror as we speak!

we really really should sort out our energy supply

eleusis · 01/08/2007 14:03

We should build a pipeline from the Caspian sea that doesn't pass through Russia. But it isn't looking good...

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sfxmum · 01/08/2007 14:05

i suppose we could always make friends with Iran

eleusis · 01/08/2007 15:02

Russia is buddies with Iran.

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WendyWeber · 02/08/2007 18:32

They haven't paid though

This is purely political, isn't it? Belarus and Russia have issues. Belarus's leader is a total shit by all accounts (unlike Putin of course ).

WendyWeber · 02/08/2007 18:33

Profile of Belarus

edam · 02/08/2007 18:35

And thanks to Thatcher's vendetta, we are dependent on foreign energy, despite this country sitting on a bed of coal. Just as we are dependent on food imports thanks to supermarkets and EU/ national government policy destroying our farmers. Let's hope no overseas regime ever tries to starve us into submission. We'd last about a week.

eleusis · 03/08/2007 08:07

They have paid more than a 100% increase in the gas price. Russia isn't satisfied and is demanding more or the supply will be cut back. Seems a tad greedy to me on Russia's part. Let us not forget the Ukraine cut off not so long ago.

Perhaps Global warming will keep us comfortable next winter.

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eleusis · 03/08/2007 08:12

Oh, sorry, I stand corrected they agreed the increase but are having trouble paying it. Go figure at a 100% increase.

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expatinscotland · 03/08/2007 08:15

I have been like a bloody Cassandra banging on about how this would come home to roost when you put British farmers out of business and have to rely on someone else for food.

The same thing will happen with energy.

But people are ostriches. They don't care and don't want to know till it's affecting them personally.

Russia's being a bully is nothing new. They have no strong history of democracy.

edam · 03/08/2007 08:52

Russia has no history of democracy full stop, bar five minutes in the 90s. The Tsars were dictators and so were the so-called Communists.

What worries me is that we had the same complacency before WW2, reliant on food imports. So the Germans very nearly starved us into submission. We were dependent on the North Atlantic convoys bringing food from North America. And that was so desperately important that if a U-boat sank one of the ships in convoy, the sailors were instructed not to attempt to rescue any of the drowning men. Such bravery.

People who were in the services or who worked in factories at least were fed at work but women at home with small children were starving, my Godmother tells me. She was one.

eleusis · 03/08/2007 09:53

What do you mean by this, Edam?

"And thanks to Thatcher's vendetta, we are dependent on foreign energy"

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WendyWeber · 03/08/2007 10:56

Against the miners, eleusis.

WendyWeber · 03/08/2007 10:57

(If you weren't here then you won't know about it.)

WendyWeber · 03/08/2007 10:59

Very brief summary here

eleusis · 03/08/2007 11:00

How does that make us dependant on foreign energy?

I think economics drive our preferred fuel. And coal has not been economical for a long time. Although with the current oil prices, we might find that changes. However, coal is least green fuel I can think of. So I'm not sure we really want to go there.

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eleusis · 03/08/2007 11:06

I can understand an argument the miners were taken care of it. And I know many people blame Thatcher for their desperation. But, I don't see how this make us dependent on foreign energy.

As for EU farm subdidies that go to other countries and not to the UK, hence driving our farmers. I completely agree. I don't really think anyone's farmers should be subsidised. Or if they are going to be subsidised, then all farmers should get a fair share.

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eleusis · 03/08/2007 11:14

oops weren't taken care of.

But, my point it is Thatcher had never touched the coal industry, the mine would not still be in use today because the coal would be all gone.

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Leati · 03/08/2007 11:17

Putin is the bully, I am sure that most of the rest of Russians are beautiful people.