I am disgusted at the Madeleine McCann/Shrek debate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bigmamie]

I have joined this site solely to remind all you thoughtless, forgetful, selfish ba#@ards that Madeleine McCann is missing!!!!!!!! I cannot understand how anyone can sit with their arms around their own children, in the comfort of a cinema whilst feeding their children popcorn and Coke that there are lots of mothers in this world who cannot do this. Their children have been taken from them and I wonder if any of you had the money or the resources available to them, I wonder if you would have campaigned this long or this hard for their daughters return. I wish the McCanns every success and only wish I could physically find their daughter for them. I am taking my 6 kids to see Shrek tomorrow and I hope my cinema is still showing the Madeleine film. I hope the publicity generated stays in your faces for a long time to come. Tell me, if she passed in front of you down at the shops or at the park could any of you be bothered to actually tell someone. Or are you all just to happy in the knowledge that its not one of your children. There but for the grace of God............

shrek is a U cert you stupid woman!!

If you all continue to attack me and belittle me then i will retaliate!
FOR THE UMPTEENTH TIME I AGREE THE WORDING SHOULD BE CHANGED FOR THE U CERT FILMS! YOU STUPID WOMAN!

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great minds Misdee!

i never came here for a bitch contest or a row! I thought it was a discussion!
But some people will call you names and slander you for incorrect typing and spelling errors rather than listen to the message being said. I think they do this because they have no legitimate arguement to make in return for my opinion.

"What should happen is the wording changed as i think we are all now agreed?"

I don't agree. I'm delighted it's been pulled from children's films.

Haychee, I know I'm one of the mothers that has got right up your nose, so I will try to explain once more -

we have children and we have made a conscious decision to make sure we try our damndest to filter the world for them while they at such a young age (all mine are under 7)

They do not believe that world is make of icing sugar and populated by fluffy bunnies. They understand that not everyone is kind, and they know all about death in the context of our family.

We do not tell them about every news event that occurs, and what we do share with them, we do in age-appropriate detail.

For my children, 'little girl snatched from her bed while she slept' is not remotely appropriate detail. You may disagree. But it is none of your business. If something is certificated as 'U', there is a reason for that.

So suebarro, would you not be happy if the wording were just changed?

"I certainly don't think all the bickering on here is going to help find her."

Neither is a cinema ad. Sorry but I don't think it is.

haychee, not really, no. Largely because I fail to see what use it is to tell an audience of pre-schoolers that one of their contempories is missing.

I sympathize with the McCanns, as most people do, but I think eventually, media saturation is going to prove counter-productive, because it won't 'keep her in the public eye' she'll become invisible, just as things that we're very used to usually do.

If they're still showing the ad by the time we next go to the cinema, which will be when the new Narnia movie comes out, I definitely would be thinking that they need to be focusing their resources on better avenues.

I think some people take a kind of pleasure in inflicting pointless scary stories on kids. Of course I'd tell my kids if their dog was poorly! It is part of their lives. It is relevant to them.
A poor little girl in portugal disappearing from her bed in the night, is not at all relevant. There are no lessons for children to learn from that at all. NONE.

And if my kid's school started laying that stuff on them in assembly I'd be fricking furious.

haychee - "and announce he/she is lost.."

Yes. I would expect my child to do exactly that. Preferably someone in charge in some way, perhaps a shop assistant or a security guard.

"..ready for the taking!"

Er... no. That is totally wrong. No child should be brought up to think that all adults are potnetially going to leap on them to do unspeakable things once they stray from mummy's side. IME when mine have been lost adults do leap on them - to make sure they are OK and help them find me again. That is what I would do to a lost child. Wouldn't you?

How can a child, brought up to mistrust anyone and anything outside their family, become happy confident adults, participating in society? The world is not full of monsters. There are undoubtedly some dangerous people but they are few and far between, which is why the McCann case has had such an airing in the first place.

but it seems omari that we cant even trust family now (the little girl raped and strangled in her bed by her uncle) so what prey does haychee tell her children now?

WELLS YOU have attacked me repeatedly over the last few days! Your choice of words are shocking and the way in whcih you have TWISTED my opinion is unforgivable!
I do not take any pleasure from telling my kids about the grim side of life, I do not sit and show them pictures of people on fire as you have implied. Your reaction to my views are sick and i have serious doubts about your character and therefore validity of your messages.
All i want to point out to some (not all) parents is that kids of school age cannot be shielded enitrely from the dangers in the world! You cannot guarantee that an older child will not let the secret slip to a younger child if you do not supervise every conversation that a child has.

haychee another sad and terrible story in the news. A 3 year old british child kidnapped at gunpoint in NIgeria. Are you going to tell you children about that too?

The audience of shrek is not only kids of preschool age! I wonder exactly what the ratio is of the different age groups that have seen it. I know its a U cert and therefore the ads and previews should be appropriate for a U audience. That is why i do agree that the wording should be changed to suit that younger audience but i do not agree it should be withdrawn entirely. Simply because of 2 reasons,1. the continued hieghtened awareness for the campaign and 2. there has been enough time (60+days) to have been able to have brought up the issue with your kids by now and the shock factor eliminated.

Haychee

1. the ad hasn't been withdrawn entirely, just removed from movies that children are allowed to see.

2. It's not clear how showing the ad will help the police find the missing child

3. People who have chosen not to tell their children about the missing child don't need a 60 day deadline.

Is that story likely to be at the forefront of uk news and discussed freely by parents? I think the answer is no!
I do not go out of my way to make sure my kids are unduly upset but when something as big as the madeleine case is continuously in the news, yes i will tell them in a way that doesnt freak them out! I know the story is scary but there are words to use that dont scare them more than is necessary. I just would rather that news of this nature came from me and not in the playground. I do not as you imply go on and on about it to my kids, i gave them a brief explanation and answered their questions and concers and that was all. I have not bought it up again until they wanted to. When they have seen the pictures of madeleine since our talk they have either asked mre about it or just left it. I cant see the problem with my choice, my kids are settled content and have not suffered from having had told them! It was probobly the way i went about it that reassurred them at the time.

No sense of humour at all. Very, very sad.

Haychee do you also tell your children about suicide bombers? They are in the forefront of the news and are most likely discussed by parents too after all.

The point is you chose how to handle the Madeleine case with your children. The objections to the ad are from parents who want the same right - to choose whether and how they tell their children about this very sad case.

NKF in reply;

1. That is as i already understand, but thanks for telling me again!
2. The school holidays are approaching, people will be travelling all over the world within the next few weeks for the annual holidays. Lets make sure everyone is reminded of what madeleine looks like before they set off! The audience watching shrek are the perfect audience to raise funds for her campaign as we all know and or can imagine how awful the situation must be for the McCanns.
3. I think 60+ days is long enough to have risked some information being told to my kids if i had chosen to keep it a secret.