I am disgusted at the Madeleine McCann/Shrek debate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bigmamie]

I have joined this site solely to remind all you thoughtless, forgetful, selfish ba#@ards that Madeleine McCann is missing!!!!!!!! I cannot understand how anyone can sit with their arms around their own children, in the comfort of a cinema whilst feeding their children popcorn and Coke that there are lots of mothers in this world who cannot do this. Their children have been taken from them and I wonder if any of you had the money or the resources available to them, I wonder if you would have campaigned this long or this hard for their daughters return. I wish the McCanns every success and only wish I could physically find their daughter for them. I am taking my 6 kids to see Shrek tomorrow and I hope my cinema is still showing the Madeleine film. I hope the publicity generated stays in your faces for a long time to come. Tell me, if she passed in front of you down at the shops or at the park could any of you be bothered to actually tell someone. Or are you all just to happy in the knowledge that its not one of your children. There but for the grace of God............

Happy 4th of July, Leati. Eat some BBQ for me - it's chucking the rain and about 65 degrees here.

Be grateful for that 65 its like hundred + here. Good night

Small children need to know that plug sockets are out of bounds. They need to know not to run into the road. These are everyday dangers which they themselves can control.

They get a bit older, and need to know how to get out of the house if there's a fire and not to wander off with strangers, so that if the situation arises, they'll do the right thing. Rare events, but it's worth making sure they would react appropriately.

But terrifying children by telling them about a danger which is vanishingly unlikely and which they can't possibly predict or avert is unforgiveable.

Fear of an uncontrollable event is the worst kind of fear IMO.

As they get older, the list of things they can do to protect themseleves gets longer, and their knowledge of danger should increase accordingly.

Morning everyone,
I personally think it's great to show Madelaine before the film, but I just feel sorry for all the other missing kids, who's parents don't have the money or resources to do the same thing.
I hope they find their little girl, but what about the millions of other missing children.
It breaks my heart...

x x x
marie

Bigmamie

No-one on mumsnet has forgotten about Madeleine and I would doubt that any of us don't care, we are after all, mostly, PARENTS.

We don't generally do "competitive grieving" on this site but I'm willing to give it a go for your benefit.....
... so although it's heartwarming to hear that you are blessed with 6 kids don't you think that as you have six, twice as many as the McCanns to start with, and you would presumably do anything to help the McCanns, your children shoulf forgo their Cinema trip, stay home and hire a DVD of something else instead and donate the money saved to one of the Madeleine McCann charities in order to fund more of this sort of publicity that you approve of.
.....I think it's heartless of you to do anything less, don't you want to contribute to finding Madeleine ? Presumably as you are O.K with all small children having the "snatched from her bed" phrase thrust into their subconscious you will have explained it all to your own kids in detail so they'll understand why they are having a dvd at home instead of going to see Shrek.

By the way, the McCanns themselves have shielded their youngest two children from the full horror of what has really happened. Think about that too.

This is a site for the thinking parent, did you read any threads or do any other research before you launched in with your kneejerk reaction post ?

I don't want my children to be scared of life. Most of it isn't scary or threatening but bloody wonderful! The reality is that abduction are very very rare. My children are streetwise in the sense that we allow them to go out alone. And they are very wise to the real dangers of the streets which is traffic.

As it happens we took ours to a preview showing of Shrek and I don't remember the ad at all. Not sure if it was shown TBH. I don't think it would have bothered me - my children are aware of the events and whilst they were very sad for her and her parents, it didn't frighten them at all. But I fail to see what it was really going to acheive. Everyone knows what happened - it's been in the media endlessly. And I think the context was probably innapropriate.

I do tell them about terrorist attacks because they need to understand the way the world around them works. They need explanations for things that are not just random motiveless acts of terror. Terrorism occurs in a context - which with they will have to live for many years to come I expect. I also explain global warming. Old age. Death. Child abduction may happen but how can I explain it to them in an constructive way? It happens and they need to be aware but as a peripheral thing - not a central theme rammed down their throats.

I've not read all the comments but would like to add I agree with the original poster and hang my head in shame that I didn't have the guts to start this thread myself.

you could always start another one frapacino

re teaching your child to scream and shout I'm being kidnapped when they are taken whilst asleep, we 'lift' DD1 before we go to bed so as to avoid any accidents - she usually manages to stay asleep the whole time and doesn;t have a clue whether it is me or DH who lifts her - what if it was someone else - she probably wouldn't be aware.

Frap how can you agree with the OP hysterical rantings? How dare she accuse people of not caring or not telling the authorities (or even stepping in) if we saw Maddy just because some people have objected to an advert that may have scared their children, I think Leati put the arguement in a much better light

Marvellous, as you agree with her entirely perhaps you can explain what the hell she was on about, as her OP made no sense at all so far as I can see.

No I think two is enough...I'm hiding now anyway - didn't realise my thread sounded so dramatic so again I hang my head in shame

I don't think the debate that started about Shrek and Madeleine deserves quite such vitriol.

No-one said that an ad asking for her safe return should not be aired. In fact, just before schools break up for the holidays there should be more ads around to remind people of what she looks like before they go jetting off on their hols.

The problem as I took it was that the ad mentioned that she had been snatched from her bed. This just before a children's film where lots of young, impressionable children were.

Now I'm sure a lot of you critics of this site have told your kids about Madeleine, but how many of you have told your children, especially the young ones, that she was snatched from her bed? Have you? Imagine the fear that would cause to a young child. I have a very sensitive dd who could not even go to the toilet on her own after watching the beginning of The Grinch. I know that if she was told anything like this I would have problems getting her to sleep at night.

As parents we have the right to break bad news to our children in ways we deem as appropriate to them. We do not want this right to be taken from us.

We are all concerned, as mothers, as to the plight of that little girl, and of course we all pray for her safe return. Many of us have lit candles for her and distributed posters. So to accuse us of not caring is a little harsh. I think this thread is a knee jerk reaction to a misleading newspaper report that people take as gospel truth.

If you do decide to start another one frapachino, can you not put so many exclamation marks in the title, - it hurts my eyes.

And can you leave out the 'selfish bastards' opener - it just gets everyones backs up, and maybe exchange the word 'coke' for 'springwater'.

And you'll need to back it all up with an impressive position like 'qualified paediatrition'.

Is "qualified pediatrician" an impressive qualification? Probably some Qualified doctors involved with terrorist attacks in last week, after all. Being a doctor doesn't stop you from being a nutter, it seems.

Doesn't a mum with only 2 GCSEs to her name has as valid an opinion as anybody else on this thread?

have not has, sigh, speaking of unimpressive qualifications...

The op seriously wierded me out by ending her postings by claiming she was a qualified pediatritian and that she feels sorry for our children and ended with a

a 'fully' qualified paediatrician as opposed to what?

A feckless semi-alcoholic on social services register council-estate housed teenage smoking mum, of course, they're the self-centred ones that instigated all the protests on MN about the advert, aren't they?

is this thread still going lol

How does being a paediatrician (SP) qualify you to comment on why other parents dont want to expose thier young children bad news??

Oh well! If you can write an OP like that and not take the feed-back then you are in the wrong place!

My God, cant believe there is a 2nd thread on this.

I'm furious at new posters who have joined solely because of the one sided view in the trashy papers etc. Nobody took the time to read the thread, if they had, there wouldn't be 1400+ posts on this subject.

Nobody is objecting to the film about Madeline. Nobody is being nasty and saying they dont care. People are just objecting to the fact it was shown at a U film.

As I said on the other thread before it got too big to post on, children at some point need to be taught about the pitfalls of drugs and be taught about safe sex, but I'd be furious if that was shown before a U film. And no, I'm not being stupid with my point - its up to the parents as to when they tell their child things like that.

And before anybody starts on the "teach them stranger danger Elf, or your little girl may get taken", no amount of teaching Madeline about stranger danger would have helped. She didn't wander off from a stranger. She was taken from her bed. And I dont want my little girl to know that.

I started a thread the other day with MM in the title - which was a serious lack of jusgement on my part, because there was only a weak connection - although it had nothing to do with Shrek.

But I have noticed there complaining about the original trailer complaint as well as another so that's 3 about the Shrek connection.

Also I noticed this thread had been quiet for nearly 12 hours when I woke it up again - for which I apologise