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Non violent direct action on climate change - seventy people arrested in London

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Porpoises · 17/11/2018 17:45

Seventy people have been arrested for blocking roads in London today. I studied atmospheric physics and am terrified at the course we are taking on climate change. The UN have said we only have 12 years to prevent a global ecological disaster, but our government is going backwards on its climate change policies. People are taking to the streets, in a movement supported by former archbishop Rowan Williams among others.

I'm sorry for those inconvenienced, but am really glad that people are starting to take action proportionate to the danger we face.

What do you think?

www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/nov/17/thousands-gather-to-block-london-bridges-in-climate-rebellion

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claraschu · 17/11/2018 17:52

I am so grateful to anyone who is working on this issue, in whatever way they can. This seems to me to be the most important problem we face, threatening the existence of humanity as well as much of life on earth.
I wish I had been with these good people.

Porpoises · 18/11/2018 08:38

The reporting on this issue is terrible. Most newspapers in the UK are saying virtually nothing on climate change. Would be interesting to know what their motivation is - do they genuinely think readers don't want to know, or are share holder /owner interests influencing their reporting?

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0ccamsRazor · 18/11/2018 09:18

This is well sorth watching, it is 3 years old, so changing climate has moved on during this time. News - Climate change: Worries over CO2 emissions from intensifying wildfires [[http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-46212844 This artical is on the bbc news site this morning]], things have alreasy gone past the point where we could/should have intervened, if it was seriously tacked 20, 30, 40 years ago when the issues first came to light we may have had a chance to change the course that is now running away.

My understanding of the most likley route that things will take is global weirding (acceleration in frequency and intencity of storms, droughts, freezing conditions, ice storms, hurricans in the north, cyclones in the south, land/mud slides, flooding and wild fires pumping more co2 into the atmosphere), will happen due to global warming, the salinity of the gulf stream will change, due to cool fresh water from the ice cap melt. The gulf stream is what keeps our island in the temparate zone. That cold fresh water dump will slow the gulf stream to a stop. Due to the interconectivity of our ocean currents and weather system it is likely tgat the northern hemisphere will be plunged into coldness and it could trigger an ice age.

Now that is one tiny bit of the Earth, the rest of the planet has other sensitive bio feed back systems between oceans and weather similar to the gulf stream. Each system is a small part of bigger systems.

All we can do now is try to make sure that we dont add to what is already happening in this runaway global change.

Our news agencies are not reporting properly, they report the absolute minimum as it could cause panic. Other countries such as China and India although they are in the process of industrialisation (similar to our industral revolution to 50 years ago) and are contributors to this global issue, they are not censoring it in the way our govenment is. They are looking for guidance and practical solutions in a much more open way. Climate change is on their lips much more than us in the uk.

The only way to reduce the impact and intensity of what is going to happen will be for each and every human on this planet to stop. Stop doing anything that is detrimental to our environment. This at this point in time simply will not happen.

All those that use non-biodegardable nappies, all those that eat lots of palm oil products, buy plastic clothing, buy plastic items, plastic wraped food, anything that is made from or uses fossil fuels. Which today means pretty much every fucking thing. Big families, infact even if we only reproduce ourselves number wise and keep the global population at 7B we are still too many. The population during Queen Victoria was 1B. Sobering.

0ccamsRazor · 18/11/2018 09:19

Oops to typos

0ccamsRazor · 18/11/2018 09:46

Ps it is all down to simple wave theory and thermodynamics.

SusannahL · 19/11/2018 11:16

Whenever I read yet another scare-mongering story about 'global warming' or 'climate change' I am reminded about how, a year or so ago, a ship was sent out to report back on the alleged melting of the polar ice caps.

The ship ended up stuck in thick ice, and had to wait to be rescued !

Some scientists believe the planet is warming, yet some others believe we could be entering another mini ice age.

Until they all agree I will not panic!

Porpoises · 19/11/2018 17:39

That's bullshit Susannah. If you're not a troll and would actually like information, this is from NASA:

"Multiple studies published in peer-reviewed scientific journals show that 97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree: Climate-warming trends over the past century are extremely likely due to human activities. In addition, most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position. The following is a partial list of these organizations, along with links to their published statements and a selection of related resources..."

climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

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