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What's in the Red Box? Roll up for the MNHQ Budget Day thread

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RowanMumsnet · 29/10/2018 10:28

Hello

As lots of you will know, at 3.30pm today the Chancellor Philip 'Spreadsheet' Hammond will be presenting the government's budget to the House of Commons.*

MNHQ sometimes gets asked for comment from journalists on budget measures that affect families, so we thought this year we'd start a dedicated thread for you to let us know what you think as the nation gets its calculators out.

Some stories/guesses/leaks that have been heavily trailed in the weekend newspapers and this morning:

There's speculation that 'better-than-expected tax returns have given Hammond a £13bn windfall, reducing the need for the substantial tax increases' - but Hammond has stressed that 'the measures being announced would be contingent on the government securing a Brexit deal... in the event of there being no deal, he would have to return to parliament with an emergency budget setting out an alternative economic strategy for the UK' (The Guardian)

£2bn for the mental health crisis among children and young people by 2023-24, with headlines talking about 'a mental health unit in every school and hospital' (The Times, £; The Guardian)

A special Brexit 50p coin (The Sun)

Extra money for road and pot hole repairs, and a continued freeze on fuel duty (New Statesman)

An increase in the personal allowance to £12.5k, and an increase in the threshold for top-rate tax to £50k p/a (BBC)

A £650m 'Future High Streets' fund to 'help retailers adapt' as Brits take their shopping custom online, combined with a £900m cut to 'business rates for independent retailers' and a new tax for 'internet giants' (Daily Mail)

A possibility that there will be 'extra cash to ease the transition to Universal Credit when its rolls out nationally from next year' (The Independent)

Please do add any other stories you've seen, let us have your thoughts on the rumours so far, and (if you feel comfortable doing so) tell us how this will affect the people and things you care about.

Thanks
MNHQ

*'Spreadsheet' is Mr Hammond's nickname among his colleagues, apparently

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InMySpareTime · 29/10/2018 15:59

Still waiting to find out where he's magicked the cash for all these giveaways.

ginghambox · 29/10/2018 16:06

Try reading the OP.

Somerville · 29/10/2018 16:11

£500m for more no-deal Brexit prep, £400m for schools to ease funding pressure. I see where the priorities lay, and it's not with the future for the young.

littlebillie · 29/10/2018 16:11

Every time Labour is in power they bring the country to its knees - short memories

serenmoon · 29/10/2018 16:11

More money for potholes than for schools.

InMySpareTime · 29/10/2018 16:20

Is he taking the piss now?

HelenaDove · 29/10/2018 16:23

The nine HAs he has just mentioned hes mentioned shared ownership and first time buying but not social rent.

Quelle surprise!

Kazzyhoward · 29/10/2018 16:25

Can't believe he's still trying to blame Labour for current finances. When will Tories take some responsibility for the state of the country's finances?

Brown blamed Maggie throughout his 13 years in power, so a while to go yet!!!

HelenaDove · 29/10/2018 16:28

shared ownership = sham tenancy.

RowanMumsnet · 29/10/2018 16:32

@InMySpareTime

Is he taking the piss now?

We see what you did there

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HelenaDove · 29/10/2018 16:37

Another 1 billion on UC implementation/rollout

Orangeblossom1976 · 29/10/2018 16:40

and 1.7 billion in increasing UC..

InMySpareTime · 29/10/2018 16:41

Good news on the tax allowances

April2020mom · 29/10/2018 16:45

Completely ridiculous and pointless. Why didn’t they keep mental health services intact? I’ll never understand why. Politics in this country is a joke sometimes honestly.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 29/10/2018 16:47

"Austerity is coming to an end."

On what planet.
. This is another example of plummed gobbed tossers never having to live in the real world

RowanMumsnet · 29/10/2018 16:50

BBC's round up of the key points here

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InMySpareTime · 29/10/2018 16:54

The speaker is great today!

Sashkin · 29/10/2018 17:03

Every time Labour is in power they bring the country to its knees - short memories

Do you seriously think the economy is in a better state now than it was in 2008?

littlebillie · 29/10/2018 17:50

Sash I think you need to understand what was going on at that time and how we got there. An unholy mess of financial spin, it's a wonder we still have a health service after how Labour left the country.

"No money left" comes to mind

anonymousbird · 29/10/2018 18:03

littlebillie - a certain note? I used to have it saved as a photo, sadly it's several phones ago!

GhostofFrankGrimes · 29/10/2018 18:03

Remarkable how some fail to realise that 2008 was a global economic collapse. I assume the same posters are too young to remember black wednesday and Boom and boost of the 1980s.

EngTech · 29/10/2018 18:13

Aah, Black Wednesday with the bank rate of over 12%.

Managed to keep the roof over my head but like all things, if you max out your credit card, eventually, you have to pay the Tally Man and 10 years on, it still has to be paid for.

If JC gets in, what would he do?

Come what may, debts have to paid off

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/10/2018 18:23

anonymousbird here you go:

What's in the Red Box? Roll up for the MNHQ Budget Day thread
ForalltheSaints · 29/10/2018 18:37

A budget that may turn out to be as much a work of fiction as anything J.K.Rowling could imagine, as until we know how much worse off we will be depending on how we leave the EU, any forecasts are not worth anything.

The commemorative 50p is not appropriate. We joined in 1973 and I think the half-crown may have been still about.