Private Education Sector to "Loan " Teachers......

[Boobsgonesouth]

I know that this one will be such a hot potato...couldn't resist the temptation to post it

here's the article

Hang on, I don't think I've ever said that choosing to pay for your kids' education is somehow unfair on people who don't choose to do that. I'm not against private education, but as a well-educated state education person who will also send my children to state school, I do get a bit peed off by people assuming that the state system is not staffed by well-qualified, committed and excellent teachers. Others have made the points as to why results may be lower so I'm not going to do that again. But it's not because of the teachers, and that's why I find this proposal so insulting, especially coming from a so-called 'Labour' government. Actually what I object to more are the selective state schools that cream off the best in their area and deny places to kids who live on their doorstep who would benefit hugely from going to their local school rather than having to tube it half way across the city. I know of a school like that, brilliant results, fantastic facilities, wonderful teaching etc. etc. right in the middle of a council estate. But they select by SATS results, and guess what? The most local community to them lose out. Now THAT is just wrong in my opinion, not having a state and private sector, because that is never going to go away.

MissM _ Are you sending your children through the state system as a matter of principle or because you think it is better or because the alternative is unaffordable for your family? Just wondered.

MissM, with only one exception on this thread, no-one believes that the teachers are better at private schools.

We are all or mostly all converted. So, no need for the vehemence?

Even I don't think they all are better. At the better private schools on the whole the teachers are better for the reasons I set out but most teachers are in the state system and many are very good.

Obviously the Government must think thre is some secret weapon the private system has.

Good to see Eton refusing to set up a City Academy because they have no experience of teaching gitls or co ed or pupils from the inner city which are actually very good reasons and true reasons. They say they are good at what they do but not qualified to do the other. They have offered and presumably already do to give other assistance, consultancy advice etc.

I think you've misinterpreted my tone. I'm not being vehement - I don't think I know how to do that! Of course I wouldn't not send my kids to private school just to make a point of principle - that's just silly, and who exactly would I be making the point to? Neither myself or my husband earn enough money to send our children privately, and as we were both well educated in the state system then we'll try to get the same for our kids.

I think the secret weapon is just that it's private Xenia. This government seems to have a bit of an obsession about running the public sector on private lines. (not vehemence, just sarcasm

Was I being vehement? I think I need to go and look it up in the dictionary!

Haven't read all this thread.

I teach in a state comprehensive. I like it, the kids are great and do well. I would hate to teach in a private school, really hate it.

Our school has just had a glowing OFSTED report(FWIW). Perhaps they should send our teachers into the private sector.

I have a friend who works in a private school. She hates:

Having to work Saturdays, because the parents pay her and they expect it.

Not having strong unions to protect them

Being constantly at parents beck and call

Lack of comradeship amongst colleagues, which is very strong in state sector.

She also dislikes the attitude of a lot of the students, eg she is looked down on for being a mere teacher.....

fb, we know a teacher who stole large amounts from parents so hard did they find it to live up to the lifestyles of the children they were living amongst. Because your income is tiny as a teacher compared to the people you're with and meeting all the time, particularly in boarding schools. It's a very hard thing to get your head around (unless you're a teacher with a very well paid wife like my ex husband or have a private income). I can understand your friend's feelings.