Private Education Sector to "Loan " Teachers......

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I know that this one will be such a hot potato...couldn't resist the temptation to post it

here's the article

prvaet shool teachers dont TEACH FGS

they watch them learn

"Watch them learn"?

How does that work? Do private school children learn by osmosis then? Do they sit on their books and absorb information through their arses?

It certainly didn't happen in my day.

thast correct
lol atth htoght of the pricate teachers ever havign kdsi who were hard to teach int heir clss

cod has a point actually. in my school, at least one of our teachers was useless, the clever ones still got straight As in all their exams, they just looked at the books and understood everything.

i thank you

loads of them arent crb checked
ahev no contracts
are not even trained fgs

So, children who go to private schools are inherently cleverer than those that don't?

What a bizarre argument.

no tooty, thats not what I am saying at all.
I went to a selective school, which also happens to be one of englands top oxbridge hothouses, and competition is v fierce to get in there. therefore, as you would expect, there was a high proportion of very clever people there.

IMHO a selective school (or a grammar school) is very similar to a private school in many ways and is hardly a reflection of society as a whole. As you say you had a lot of bright pupils who would have done well in any environment but I'm quite sure that at every school (private or state) the quality of teaching does make a difference to a vast number of pupils. I like to think I would have got my (excellent) grades at any school but I'm kidding myself that I could have done as well as I did without good teachers and I think that's true for most people.

I've never understood the need to have a go at private school teachers.

some are
some are utter dunces.

And very often the utter dunces still walk away with a good set of exams. Perhaps they're just particularly good at osmosis.

the freaks who taught me at my private school
blardy hell

TF is right that many day academdic private schools are not that different from selective state schools. The head at North London my daughter's school came from the state system, one of those very successful state grammars I think. My ex husband worked in both sectors. He was good at controlling children but he said the state system was like being a policeman and in the private sector he had chidlren who wanted to learn and GiantS yes I know you strip out all the problem pupils. Most parents want their chidlen taught away from disrupters of the class. We don't want to sacrifice our children to a bad school on principle. Who would do that? Not surprising people pay to avoid that.

I think some private schools have better teachers because they can pay more and believe it or not many teachers have families to support, wives and even school fees and mortgages to pay so are tempted by money, clever co-operative pupils, beautiful buildings and sometimes free places for their children at the school and free accommodation. We started our married life in a free school flat and our son had a free education to age 13 virtually because of their father getting all those perks in a private school.

Many teachers have a social conscience and teach in the state system (most teachers obviously) and many are brilliant.

Anyway we'll see what is the result of the consultatoin over "public benefit" in the Charities Act leads to. It sounds as if the Government is deciding what it means and the consultation exercise going on at the moment is a complete farce in that case.

I muast admit my first thought was "sod loaning the teachers, loan me £5000 for the fees."

I think it's probably fair since they benefit from charitable status. But if I could ever afford to send DS to private school (which he is in no danger of) I'd be pretty pissed off at paying three times over for his education - once to the state, once to the school, and then for the school subsidising the state.

There are some really crap private schools btw, more of a status thing. But there are also some very good ones obviously.

xenia go back to work

Aren't the schools doing it in order to keep their charitable status. They probably prefer to loan teachers rather than the building.

Er... fair?

Fair?

Um... I'm at a loss to know why anyone expects fairness in the field of buying education, tbh.

But education, health etc. are not commodities like other stuff, so if they are available to buy, then fairness seems to me to be the least likely thing you'd connect with them tbh.

This plan will never come off anyway, because teachers will look at their contracts and say "um... no thanks"