Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

News

Porn 'actor' interviewed in the guardian's work suppliment..?!

37 replies

Monkeytrousers · 13/05/2007 22:58

Hmm
OP posts:
paulaplumpbottom · 13/05/2007 23:04

This is a career choice now

paulaplumpbottom · 13/05/2007 23:05

?

Carmenere · 13/05/2007 23:05

Such a glamorous career

moondog · 13/05/2007 23:06

Oh there's some silly cow interviewed in Observer Woman today who write s about all the people she fucks.

Yaaaaawn.

Why do we give these people any sense of gravitas by according them newspaper space??

UnquietDad · 13/05/2007 23:07

let's hope she turns up here

moondog · 13/05/2007 23:08

Unquiet,my sentiments entirely.
I feel embarassed that they print such shit i really do and have told them so.

mummypigoink · 13/05/2007 23:09

At least there's always going to be demand for it...

NotanOtter · 13/05/2007 23:11

pure bullshit

paulaplumpbottom · 13/05/2007 23:12

I can't get over how classy she obviously is.

"If I could lift my skirt up and go, 'Woo-ooh!' I would do it," she explains. "I was the girl at school who used to go to the club with no pants on. That was just how I was, and I was like that from a very early age"

Carmenere · 13/05/2007 23:14

And her family expressed no suprise at her choice of career.....

NotanOtter · 13/05/2007 23:16

yet 'educated to a-level'

paulaplumpbottom · 13/05/2007 23:42

She says that they weren't suprised but she doesn't say that they were pleased

Monkeytrousers · 14/05/2007 08:10

As I'm going to be referencing this in something I'm writing, I had a look at her site to see the kind of stuff she does. It was, excuse the pun, fucking awful. I only watched the 30 second 'promo' - but it was really violent and at one point, (warning -TMI for those of a delicate nature) there was a close up of her vagina after taking numerous poundings by very well endowed fellas and well, it looked pretty much like she'd just given birth it was in such a mess. She thinks this kind of stuff should be shown on mainstream telly because dead people are shown on the news...as though people don't object to that too..? She can buy her S&m and gonzo porn on videos and watch it via the internet, but that isn't enough. She is angry because her personal sexual choices aren't validated by the mainstream by having them on instead of Life on Mars!

The thing that gets me is that the piece was about a porn 'actor' and by Rock's own admission, she was not acting, she hated acting, and she was doing stuff she would be doing anyway except getting videoed and paid for it.

Like she alludes to, people with such naturally occurring proclivities will be expressing it anyway; what isn?t clear, and which was conveniently ignored in the piece, was that for the majority of people in the sex industry, it isn't clear that this is the case and in fact that a lot of damaged people inhabit it, not forgetting the trafficked people and that prostitution is also part of the sex industry.

I wouldn't question anyone who went into the porn industry fully aware of the realities and uncoerced, always under their own free will, as she claims she has done. That is, if anything, a moot point and irrelevant.

She has found a way to express her own personal sexuality, but seems angry that this seems to carry a social or reputation cost. That is part of human nature and she has no chance of changing that. What she doesn't seem to understand is that her sexuality is not the norm for most women and looking at the site, I'd say most men either. There are very extensive studies on this and it isn?t subjective. Most people are not turned on by violence.

OP posts:
UnquietDad · 14/05/2007 09:44

isn't she an "ACTRESS" anyway?
(hard-hat on)

Oenophile · 14/05/2007 10:20

It's hard to believe she's for real, she just doesn't sound like any woman I've ever met. Reminds me a bit of the Deep Throat woman and the Happy Hooker? (maybe) both of whom, if I remember it right, 'wrote' enthusiastic 'biographies' of their love for kinky and what most of us would call demeaning sex - only for it to be revealed later that they had been coerced into most of their activities, hadn't written a word of their hard-core testimonies, and were really unhappy women with ruined lives.

Trouble is for this kind of publicity, it can't help but give even nice, caring, decent men, a very skewed idea about women. Even subconsciously some men must think 'wow! my GF/wife isn't like that' with a tinge of regret, or even 'all women are like that deep down, I bet!'

Minus points to the Grauniad for promoting her. I used to love the G but it gets more like a tabloid every day

madamez · 14/05/2007 10:32

Oh, so more smug ignorant bullshit about how no "real" woman likes sex in anything other than a monogamous relationship and any woman who claims to be working in the porn industry of her own free will must be mad, bad or "damaged". FFS people have a wide variety of sexual tastes and life choices. Trafficking people is wrong, forcing people to work in any kind of job is wrong, but the answer is better protection for employees, not condemning people who have chosen to do certain jobs.

ruty · 14/05/2007 10:41

Oh how droll UD.
Horrible article, written by a man, obviously, and just perpetuating the myth that women are up for it all the time and enjoy violent sex.
I agreed with the opening gambit, that sex is more of a taboo in the uk and usa than really horrific violence [not in news but look at the new breed of teen 'torture porn' not much sex, a huge amount of supposedly titillating violence.] But downhill from then on.

Carmenere · 14/05/2007 10:47

Madamez imo you, and your well documented opinions on sexuality are an exception. I can have and have had a lively guilt free sex life without agreeing that the porn industry is a great place for women to work. It is largely populated by women who are indentured to drug addictions, controlling partners or low self esteem. Not an industry I want my daughter to see as a career option.

This article is extremely poor journalism, the equivalent of printing a press release word for word without questioning the motives behind it.

madamez · 14/05/2007 12:18

Carmenere: what industry is entirely free of bad bosses, exploitation, etc?

ruty · 14/05/2007 12:45
Hmm
donnie · 14/05/2007 13:31

agree carmenere.The lady doth protest far too much IMO.

Monkeytrousers · 14/05/2007 17:05

madamez on Mon 14-May-07 10:32:27

You are arguing with yourself again. If you are going to argue the toss, please to it with what I actually say instead of just responding to some general gripe you have about people debating porn in the first place. Thanks

OP posts:
Monkeytrousers · 14/05/2007 17:12

Written by a man Ruty, but the words are hers. Some women are like this, and all power to them; but they are not representing the majority female sexuality - I keep telling Madamez, we have scientific evidence for this. This is not my opinion but a statement of fact.

To say most women are not like this is not to say all women only like sex in a monogamous relationship or that "any who claims to be working in the porn industry of her own free will must be mad, bad or "damaged". "

That isn't what I said, Madamez. If we are going to have a debate, can you please stop being so reactionary. We both might learn something.

OP posts:
ruty · 14/05/2007 18:56

words were hers yes MY, but it might have been more interesting/insightful had the questions been asked by a woman. I don't have a problem with women who feel like this, but wonder about the simplistic nature of the way they are seeing it, and how they manage to avoid perceiving the huge amount of exploitation inevitably involved.

ruty · 14/05/2007 18:57

MT not MY!