who are PROPER female role models

[Porcupine]

for your dds? not farking JOran please

Ginger - I used to play the drums in a pipe band, will I do as a role model for your daughter?

Marie Curie
Mary Queen of Scots
Maya Angelou
Oprah

Are you saying Katie Price isn't a role model because of her career or what? I think as a mum she is brilliant. She has delt with Harvey very well, i can't even imagine what it would be like to have a disabled child. Then having Junior followed by pnd can't be easy, then being pregnant again and having the worry of Harvey burn himself and now peter ill. I think she has coped very well with everything that had been thrown at her and anyone who can say she isn't a good mum is deluded. Just because she doesn't go along with the norm of society and chose a risky career as a topless model and was a bit of a party girl, people are ready to throw her out with the trash. Like everyone, she has made mistakes and no one is without a past, good or bad and Katie is just an easy target.

Why does every thread have to come back to Jordan / Katie Price???? Jeeesus

My grandmother - widowed in Jamaica whilst expecting 16th child. Raised them all without the aid of benefits etc in a one room shack.

Dr Mae Jemison - first African American Astronaut

Condoleeza Rice (she is black and powerful in a white man's world)

Wangari Maathai - first African woman to win Noble Peace Prize (environmentalist and human rights campaigner)

Iman (first high profile black supermodel)

Whoopi Goldberg (sheer force of personality has made her succeed in an industry which values women for their superficial beauty rather than their raw talent and innate ability)

Rosa Parks (respect)

Coretta Scott King

Harriet Tubman

Mary Seacole

Oprah Winfrey

Toni Morrison

Marie Curie

MT - my reference to Madonna was a joke, jesus, I have hated the woman since 1980's when I was at school when an entire generation of teenage girls dyed and permed their hair to look like her ! I think she is absolutley vile, so is her adoption of poor African children. If any one else adopts African children I would applaud it but with Madonna as one's mummy and role model, they are better off living in poverty in Africa !

Oh no PLEASE not Condi Basmati Rice, she really shouldn't be on a list of women one admires. She is awful, in such a powerful position where she could make real changes to the world scene and yet she chooses to work for one of the most right wing men on earth, GW Bush.

Mary Wollstonecraft

Wollstonecraft is most intent on illustrating the limitations that women's educations have placed on them; poetically, she writes: "Taught from their infancy that beauty is woman's sceptre, the mind shapes itself to the body, and, roaming round its gilt cage, only seeks to adorn its prison."[56] The implication of the statement is that, without the damaging ideology encouraging young women from an early age to focus their attention on beauty and outward accomplishments, women could achieve much more.

Condi is fab. I keep hoping to see her on the ticket for vice president.

Condoleez Rice
Margaret Thatcher
Faye Turney

Yellowrose

WRT to Condoleeza Rice, it is a matter of perspective. I'm black and growing up in Britain in the 70s/80s, the only positive images of black people that I remember seeing were in sports or sometimes on the TV (e.g. Floella Benjamin on Play School). More often than not, black people were only mentioned when they were criminals or starving in Africa. Other than that, we were invisible. Similarly, at school. Teachers, who were predominantly white, had low expectation of us and expecting the intelligent girls to become nurses and the rest of us to work in Woolworths.

So for the next generation to see a black woman make it to high office through hard work and by using her intellect is something that I welcome because it positively reinforces the message that education does matter. One does not only have to aspire to be great atheletes or pop singer.

I don't like her politics but I admire what she has achieved, especially in a country that is still racially divided as the USA.

i don't think condi is that good a role model, I look at her and feel there's no balance in her life. but maybe that says more about me, maybe i don't feel like that about men who are single and childless. actually I do feel the men have missed out too...

FAYE TURNEY?!?!?!?! WHY?

Different people have different centres of balance IMO.

Margaret Thatcher

"My parents had me absolutely convinced that, well, you may not be able to have a hamburger at Woolworth's but you can be president of the United States,"

-Condoleeza Rice

Don't particularly like her policitcs but Condoleezza Rice was considered the most powerful woman on the planet by Forbes magazine and she always managed to appear like a reasonable human being too which is more than many men in her position seem to manage!

Hi Goosey.

they sell hamburgers in woollies?

speedy you say: "I don't like her politics but I admire what she has achieved, especially in a country that is still racially divided as the USA".

I TOTALLY agree, it is good for all ethnic minorities to have female role models in politics, esp. in the USA. Afterall, life is about politics. I just think that her working for Bush cancels out the positive fact that she is a black woman. Just my personal view. Just as Maggie Thatch being a fascist worked against her as a woman !

There are many ethnic minority women I admire, many are mentioned here in the world of literature, the arts, etc. It would be great if there were more NICE ones in politics though, I agree

Faye Turney???????????????????????

If I had a daughter and I wanted her to grow up in to a lard arsed money grabbing oh poor me type of person then yes i could see how this would work!

does a "reasonable human being" include the fact that she is directly implicated in human rights abuses al la Iraq, Afghanistan, Guantanamo ?

Emilyn Pankhurste. [sp?]

The Bush administration (and therefore Rice too) has severely curtailed the reproductive rights of women all around the world, not just in the US.

I am gonna call the Chief Exec. of Woollies (I saw him on TV the other night) and ask why he won't sell hamburgers and suggest that Condi Basmati Rice and family are upset he doesn't and if he had she wouldn't have worked so hard to become Sec. of State !